kopetsa
645 posts
May 08, 2008
7:47 AM
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When you start with proven spinning color birds. Can you continue the color breeding?
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Andrew
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SAT Roller
134 posts
May 08, 2008
8:00 AM
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My take is, it is OK to breed for color whenever you like as you are paying for the feed and up keep of the birds.......
Richard
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MILO
994 posts
May 08, 2008
8:03 AM
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Do you want them to roll? Why did you pick rollers? There are plenty of color breeds to play with. You can have rollers, and have something on the side.
c
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kopetsa
646 posts
May 08, 2008
8:06 AM
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Everyone should breed for roll, however I believe they are a multi-purpose breed.. and if your birds are proven you may breed for both.. why would they have such a variety of color.....
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Andrew
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sippi
227 posts
May 08, 2008
8:07 AM
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Andrew it is a difficult task to breed for both color and spin. For 99% of the people when you put color first the roll will suffer. Ultimately you are the one who has to make the choice. You are the one paying the feed bill. Personally I like pretty and different colors. I breed best to best and to some extent soft to hard. I wont hesitate to breed hard to hard or soft to soft if it is best to best. Soft to hard tends to maintain a balance of color in my flock. But roll is and always be first for me.
sippi
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katyroller
153 posts
May 08, 2008
8:15 AM
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My opinion is that you can but you should focus on performance over color. You will still produce color birds but the quality of the color will usually start to deteriorate over time.
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MILO
995 posts
May 08, 2008
8:17 AM
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Andrew.
I am trying to spare you a lot of heartache and having to pull A LOT of heads. You should breed only your best spinners together. The second you follow color, you will stumble. Nevermind all the "hooraying" for color that goes on here. It will get you nowhere. No disrespect, but how long have you had rollers? Do you have the understanding to do both, roll and color? I've been doing this over 25 years, and wouldn't even try it. Not justs because it doesn't float my boat, but because it's next to impossible, no matter what a lot of people tell you. Just trying to point you in the right direction. Hope you figure it out, and best of luck.
c
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showlow
35 posts
May 08, 2008
8:19 AM
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I know nothing about color modifiers or anything at all about breeding for color. That being said, This is a dumb question, but where does white come in? Many red bar or blue bar birds have white badge,white flights or grizzle/mottle/spangle color in the mix. Where does this come from? Tony-I noticed some of your birds have white on them. Is white not a color? Please clear this up for me. I am not trying to stir the color debate. I like to see my birds with white flihgts, they are pretty in the air.
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MILO
997 posts
May 08, 2008
8:23 AM
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The Birmingham Roller has TONS of gorgeous colors and patterns in them already. Go pick the best rollers you can in your area, if they happen to be whites, or mottles or whatever, then GO FOR IT! That is great. The best rollers I ever saw were black as night, and so that's what I have, and have been with them ever since.
c
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kopetsa
647 posts
May 08, 2008
10:41 AM
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I will definitly not buy a color bird if it can not spin. But I will if it is an amazing spinner. I like to see great performers in the air but beautiful birds in the loft.
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Andrew
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George R.
642 posts
May 08, 2008
10:45 AM
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Andrew
would you buy it even if it only spun nice for a couple of weeks , then starts bumping or out flying( non kitting).
you might want to ask Scott what mental glue ( controlling the roll , not controlled by the roll) is and where it comes from.
Last Edited by on May 08, 2008 10:46 AM
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air_yang
2 posts
May 08, 2008
11:52 AM
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okay im new at raising roller..so i what im asking is what do you roller guys out there consider a color bird...is it one that is a solid, or it has to have more then one color, to be a color bird, or a light color bird...
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