gtlofts
14 posts
May 29, 2008
10:36 PM
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Good day
I would just like to ask two question's , how do you build a family out of two strains and how many birds do you need ?
Thnx
Clive Herbst
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cv rollers
22 posts
May 29, 2008
10:59 PM
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gtlofts i would also like to know.........
i want to start my own line,is it even possible???
rick
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cvrc(ckc)
11 posts
May 29, 2008
11:06 PM
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rick, it is possible by mixing alot of different bloodlines together like coya,McCormick,and Higgens in the same bird
sincerely CKC
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cvrc(ckc)
13 posts
May 29, 2008
11:16 PM
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i talked to a guy and he said that it took him 5 yrs and he still has to work the birds even more.
sincerely CKC
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Scott
681 posts
May 30, 2008
12:25 AM
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Why do you need two different to build your own ?
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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gtlofts
18 posts
May 30, 2008
12:51 AM
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Because if just breed with one person's pigeons and you fly a good or bad kit on comp day , everybody refers to it as the "blacks" of so and so !
Nobody says your family is flying good they always say the ""blacks" of who-ever flew good at your house !
And you always get certain people ( especially when your new and your battling to get a roller ! ) that always refer to your birds as someone elses family !
Thats why I'm trying to buy birds out of the air and not worring to much of famillies and rather using good rollers and trying to be competitive !
Thanx Clive
RSA
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Scott
682 posts
May 30, 2008
6:23 AM
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Trust me, they evolve into yours over time,for that matter nothing with these birds is done fast, as it is you are looking to cross for no sound reason.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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J_Star
1604 posts
May 30, 2008
6:34 AM
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Clive,
It can be done easily but it will take around 4 to 5 years. When purchasing birds from fanciers from air also handle the birds. They must fit right in your hand. All the birds from all fianciers you are getting birds from must be compatible from character and way of feeding to performace. Don't worry about the gene pool is going to be all over the place because all top fanciers these days have their families devoid of major faults.
Once you have several excellent birds from different families then match each hen to each cock and breed them. Take your superior F1s and replace the weaker parent with them and continue on with your F2s and F3s. Good luck.
Jay
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kopetsa
745 posts
May 30, 2008
7:37 AM
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I am trying to start my own family of yellows. Actually, I have already started... The thing is, they're not just color birds.
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Andrew
Last Edited by on May 30, 2008 7:37 AM
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maxspin
240 posts
May 30, 2008
8:24 AM
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Clive,
Having your own family is the easy part. Being known for your family is the hard part.
It will be easier if you don't mess around with mixing up families.
Your birds will be known as "Herbst" when you consistently score well in the fly's.
I am switching to (Hanchett) birds. They may be based on Bruce Cooper birds, but Ivan has been working "successfully" with them long enough to refer to them as "Hanchett's).
Some day I would like people to come to me for my "Maxwell" birds, but that is years in the future.
Pick the family of birds that works best for you and stick with them. The rest of the roller community will let you know when you have your own family.
They will let you know by trying to by birds from you.
Good luck with your birds
Keith Maxwell
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gtlofts
20 posts
May 30, 2008
11:23 AM
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The biggest problem is getting the right family ! Ive tried buying a whole kit and selecting and that didnt work ! Thats why im trying to buy birds out of the air and not stock ! Thnx Clive
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