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ptlofts
41 posts
Jun 04, 2008
1:28 PM
20 birds break.

Check it out.

Pedro

Last Edited by on Jun 04, 2008 2:47 PM
colinb
97 posts
Jun 04, 2008
1:50 PM
no mate this is not a 20 bird this is why we wont the split second rule scrapt it courses to much confusing thay
should look like thay have hit a brick wall together then it wood b a 20 bird
SiDLoVE
247 posts
Jun 04, 2008
1:55 PM
These Birds are fighting the wind. and thats not a 20 bird break. Some birds went others went after ..others twizzled cause of affect of the wind blowing them. There is a 8 to 13 bird break ...kinda hard to view...

siDLove

Last Edited by on Jun 04, 2008 5:59 PM
sac_spinners
244 posts
Jun 04, 2008
2:12 PM
Definetly not a Full Turn........


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SSLOFTS
9 posts
Jun 04, 2008
2:34 PM
Man,I must need new glasses,'cause all I see is a bunch of white dots dropping!
ptlofts
42 posts
Jun 04, 2008
2:43 PM
This was filmed with a Photo/Videocam
and the Youtube file compression lows
down the video quality.

Please watch at 0:53
You can take your own conclusions.

Thank you.

Last Edited by on Jun 04, 2008 2:46 PM
showlow
43 posts
Jun 04, 2008
2:49 PM
If that isn't a 20 bird break at 0.53, I don't know what is!!!!! I don't think you can get a better full turn, I don't care what birds you fly, or how you train them. Just my opinion---Bob
kham89
124 posts
Jun 04, 2008
3:01 PM
I cant see it clearly...zooming in would totally help
juanrollers
13 posts
Jun 04, 2008
3:02 PM
Nice action up there!!!
kcfirl
444 posts
Jun 04, 2008
3:38 PM
PEdro,

thanks for posting that. I beleive that was probably a 1/2 - 3/4 turn. the trouble is that I can;t see the roll well enough in the video to tell if even 1 bird was going in adequate speed and style to be scored. the depth looked to be there estimating by the average wingspan of each bird verses the distance.

I can see the there are at least 2-3 and possible 6-7 birds that do not appear to be actually rolling at all but look to be turning over a couple of times before chasing the kit down.

I saw on Youtube that these are supposed to be Graham Dexter birds. IS this a Graham Dexter flown kit?

Thanks,

Ken

PS. The kitting was a bit loose for my taste.
ptlofts
43 posts
Jun 04, 2008
3:43 PM
Beleive it or not, 2007 young birds.
And yes, that was a windy day.

I've seen many kites flying on Youtube and they
look to me very deep birds, taking too much time to come back to the kit and not breaking well.

Again I'm sorry for the vid quality.
Next time I'll have my new digital videocam
and I'm sure that the quality will be much highier
that this.

Pedro

Last Edited by on Jun 04, 2008 3:52 PM
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509 posts
Jun 04, 2008
3:47 PM
that no 20 birds brakes...
gabe454
1008 posts
Jun 04, 2008
3:51 PM
nice breaks but not a 20 bird break.
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Flipmode
197 posts
Jun 04, 2008
3:52 PM
The first break is clearly a Waterfall!!! And the second break isn't clear enough to see if the quality of the birds rolling is even scorable! Oh and the strong winds might have added to the effect.
smoke747
1178 posts
Jun 04, 2008
4:08 PM
Pedro,
nice video, thanks for sharing. wish i could have seen the whole fly. It may not have been a 20 bird break but exciting to watch.

smoke747
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Keith London
ICRC
Electric-man
1675 posts
Jun 04, 2008
4:22 PM
What ever it is, its worth watching! Thanks for sharing it with us Pedro!

Even nicer to see you posting again! Don't be such a stranger!
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RO
151 posts
Jun 04, 2008
4:55 PM
From my view it looks like a 13.
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Ro
katyroller
216 posts
Jun 04, 2008
7:30 PM
Pedro, Are these birds from your North American family?
ptlofts
44 posts
Jun 05, 2008
8:51 AM
In Graham's own words:

"By the way the break isn't a full turn, there are birds that don't start together and some of them are not spinning well enough to call it a full turn. It is a very good break though, I would probably give it a 16 break which would earn 48 points."

In my own words:

Maybe I exagerated a little with the tittle :-)
I think that we dont see things like this too often
and even recorded on video. I know his birds have quality
and his not been breeding and flying Birmingham Rollers since 1964 for nothing.

Maybe some of you know or maybe not but he is also a competition judge.
I am extremely lucky to have him as a best friend and also
as a "Master" for the art of breeding and flying high
quality Birmingham Rollers as they should be.

This wrote down, again I'm glad to share with the world this part of the film.

Regards.

Pedro

Last Edited by on Jun 05, 2008 12:06 PM
W@yne
1381 posts
Jun 05, 2008
9:02 AM
Pedro thanks for sharing the clip. I believe that Grahams birds originate from Dave Moseley and when on form Daves birds can perform with the best.
Give Graham my regards
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W@yne UK

Patience Perseverance Perfection
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Last Edited by on Jun 05, 2008 2:19 PM
ptlofts
45 posts
Jun 05, 2008
9:29 AM
Yes. From George Mason also.

Pedro
JMUrbon
498 posts
Jun 05, 2008
10:45 AM
Very cool video. I know it is very difficult to capture on video what these birds can really do and make it look good but that was pretty cool anyway. Lots of action if nothing else. Joe Urbon
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Last Edited by on Jun 05, 2008 10:55 AM
Scott
719 posts
Jun 05, 2008
10:49 AM
That 2nd break was a nice break any way you shake it.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
WaTtS UpP
919 posts
Jun 05, 2008
5:26 PM
cool video
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Watts uppp homeboy
elopez
1491 posts
Jun 17, 2008
1:49 AM
Very nice video. Very nice break!
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
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kopetsa
876 posts
Jun 17, 2008
6:49 AM
I like the music and everything. Great work!!
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Andrew
mcroller
141 posts
Jun 17, 2008
10:12 AM
good try buddy jimmi
ptlofts
47 posts
Jun 19, 2008
4:03 AM
Thanks for the coments.

Pedro
gotspin7
1383 posts
Jun 19, 2008
11:14 AM
good show
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Sal Ortiz
Spinncity
47 posts
Jun 19, 2008
12:19 PM
Tell Graham they were a bit wingy but still a nice break.Between 13 and 16 but what the hell I am sure it was awe some to watch.

Pedro,Are you in Portugal?If so I hope ypu can build the sport and one day compete in the European and World Cup.

Good luck and send my regards to Graham.

Johnny Conradie
RSA
ptlofts
49 posts
Jun 19, 2008
12:33 PM
Yes. I live in Portugal.

Graham birds,,, well, he told me that some of his birds were a little fatty at the time of my visit :)
He was just not giving much importance to the amount of food given to them.

No problem. They are turning back to their good shape again. Maybe its just the heat! The sun is always shinning in Algarve region. :))))

By the way in my visit I saw for the first time a hawk attack.
That thing looked like a bullet. Fourtunatelly no birds got
hurted on the attack. But these attacks are common there because the Peregrine are residents.

Its kind of a fast food service. :p

We are trying to imput the roller hobby here but
there is a racing pigeon culture for years here
and 99% of people that like pigeons dont even know what a roller pigeon is.

We just need to make more publicity for the hobby and get young people involved.

Pedro

Last Edited by on Jun 19, 2008 1:08 PM
Mrconductor
90 posts
Jun 19, 2008
4:08 PM
Thanks Pedro, great video!
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Ed B.
Man of few words due to a lack of typing skills.
Jutman
17 posts
Jun 19, 2008
6:31 PM
Pedro, That was fantastic. I don't post much or comment. Just read the posts and learn. Anyone that says that's not good needs to post video of there own birds so people can judge. I know I'm JEALOUS !!! Thanks Ron
PR_rollers
1230 posts
Jun 19, 2008
6:47 PM
You right that was the best video i ever saw..
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Ralph
RUDY..ZUPPPPP
1779 posts
Jun 19, 2008
7:02 PM
Good video......
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4KORNER
22 posts
Jun 19, 2008
10:50 PM
that might not have been a 20 bird break but very nice activity and if you find a few that are not up to standard remove and replace until you make these guys say you have activity going on dont let them judge you on every note thats like me telling koby you made the shot but your feet were to far apart and your arms are to low man you are doing a great job keep up the good work ask some of these guys to put footage on a 20 bird break to show you what it is you not far off track bro

Last Edited by on Jun 19, 2008 11:09 PM
CVRC
4 posts
Jun 20, 2008
12:12 AM
It wasn't a 20 bird break but it was a good break. Keep up the good work.


Cristian Castro

CM Lofts
ptlofts
54 posts
Jun 20, 2008
2:12 AM
Yes.
It would be interesting to watch
some of those 'perfect kits' that
some guys say they have.


Pedro
Spinncity
50 posts
Jun 20, 2008
3:20 AM
PEDRO,
THERE ARE NO SUCH THING AS A PERFECT KIT OR BREAK AND MOST OF US KNOW THAT THE BREAK IN REAL LIFE LOOK A LOT BETTER THAN ON VIDEO.
IT IS THE OPTICAL ILLUSION.

I SAW GRAHAM'S BIRDS IN DEC 2005 AND THEY HAD A LOT OF POTENTIAL. WE SAW SOME VERY NICE BREAKS AND THAT WAS AT THE STAGE WHEN HE JUST STARTED WITH DAVE MOSELEY'S BIRDS.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK IN PORTUGAL!
HOW FAR ARE YOU FROM GRAHAM?

JOHNNY CONRADIE
RSA
cvr(FR3rd)
50 posts
Jul 09, 2008
2:47 PM
it wasn't a 20 bird break they were a little bit off but good break
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CVR

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