juanrollers
17 posts
Jun 08, 2008
11:18 AM
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Thats a very good question. Does anybody know the answer? How far apart have you fostered?
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Santandercol
2633 posts
Jun 08, 2008
11:23 AM
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With 5 days apart you are pushing your luck.That would make it 23-24 days sitting on the nest.I wouldn't try it,the most I've had success with is 3 days apart either way.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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juanrollers
18 posts
Jun 08, 2008
11:32 AM
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what about if you put eggs that are about to hatch in about 5 days on a hen that just laid? will she be surprised or will it work?????
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sippi
321 posts
Jun 08, 2008
11:32 AM
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I have to agree with Kel if they are important I wouldnt try it. A lot of cocks will break up the nest at twenty to twenty one days if they dont hatch anyway. I have went the other way with good success but I wouldnt chance it if I wanted the birds.
sippi
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PR_rollers
1166 posts
Jun 08, 2008
12:31 PM
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Kel and Sippi are right..
The egg of the foster should had been lay within 4 days of the stock pair.I prefer the foster pair lay after the breeding pair what happens is if the foster lay their eggs sooner than 4 days before the stock pair they might abandon the nest before the good eggs hatch,something that we don't want.
Now if the foster pair lay more than 4 days after the stock pair they may not have enough time to manufacture pigeon milk for the squeakers.
Juan thats what will happen if you put the eggs that about to hatch in five days under a pair that just lay it won't manufacture pigeon milk for the squabs.
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Ralph
Last Edited by on Jun 08, 2008 1:09 PM
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black_hawk_down
121 posts
Jun 08, 2008
12:42 PM
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i would try it. i think it would work. what are fosters for then.-joe v.
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WaTtS UpP
933 posts
Jun 08, 2008
1:06 PM
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yea it worked for me
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Watts uppp homeboy
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rtwilliams
69 posts
Jun 08, 2008
3:53 PM
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Thanks for the help. Have you had hens lay the 1st and 2nd egg so far apart before. They had sat on eggs that did not hatch. I pulled them at 20 days and she laid 5 days later and then took 3 days to lay the second. I thought that was unusual. I pulled eggs off both pairs the same day hoping they would be in sync and I could foster a round. It never works as planned.
Thanks for the help. I think I am going to try it. I will let you know how it works.
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RT Williams
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Santandercol
2635 posts
Jun 08, 2008
9:02 PM
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I think maybe you missed that second egg being laid on the 5th not the 6th.They always lay their eggs one day skip a day then the second egg laid on the next day.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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juanrollers
19 posts
Jun 08, 2008
9:27 PM
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Hey Ralph it might be too late, the eggs hathed today I'll post updates tomorrow to let you guys know if they are still alive. I've never done it like that before,I did it because I wanted to break up that pair to switch them up. Hopefully they will survive.
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juanrollers
21 posts
Jun 09, 2008
8:37 PM
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Well I checked the newly hatched and they were full and healthy. I also seen the foster mom feeding them. I think they might be alright. So is there such a thing as pigeon milk as posted above? I'll post an update in a couple of days.
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Santandercol
2638 posts
Jun 09, 2008
10:20 PM
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pigeon milk is what the parents feed the young for the first week or more.you'll notice if you feel the crop of the newborn babies,it is soft for the first week then slowly,the parents milk becomes less and the young are fed more and more grain when at 10 days old you can see and feel the grains through the skin of their crop.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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rtwilliams
75 posts
Jun 10, 2008
11:03 AM
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Kel
That is what I thought. I also thought that the 2nd egg was laid in the afternoon, approx 36 hours apart. She may have jet lag and laid the first late and the second in the morning or something. I am not sure. I was waiting for the second egg, and it was not there when I fed evening of 6/5/08, which is when I expected.
thank you to everyone that has helped understand egg laying dynamics. You have been a great help.
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RT Williams
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juanrollers
25 posts
Jun 10, 2008
9:31 PM
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They are two days old and still alive and looking healthy. I felt their chest and it feels soft does'nt feel like grains at all.
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arminas1
3 posts
Jun 12, 2008
4:37 PM
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i really wish i read this a couple of days ago. one of my foster pair just got off the eggs i gave them. sucks..!!
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juanrollers
33 posts
Jun 12, 2008
5:30 PM
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The hatchlings are 4 days old and apear to be growing healthy. These are the babies that hathed only 5 or 6 days after I put them on the foster parents. In other words the forster pair had laid their eggs only 5 or 6 days ago when the substituted eggs hatched. So is there such a thing as pigeon milk or just well broken down food? If there is pigeon milk then they must produce it quick or these babies would be dead --right???
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