DeepSpinLofts
850 posts
Jun 10, 2008
12:11 AM
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I paid $4.59/gal a few hours ago for regular unleaded at the gas station.
QUESTION: Anybody else out there feeling the pinch at the pump?
Marcus
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bertie
279 posts
Jun 10, 2008
5:24 AM
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Everybody is feeling the crunch. It is costing us more for everything we do including feeding our birds.
I'm retired and I haven't driven anywhere for 3 weeks now. It sure would be nice if the whole country would get fed up with this record profits of the big oil companies and take one summer without a vacation. Just stay close to home and don't spend billions of our hard earned dollars on over priced gas. If we could knock these oil profits down a lot maybe they would see that we are fed up with this crap.
Bert
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Santandercol
2641 posts
Jun 10, 2008
6:42 AM
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$6.40 per imperial gallon(4.58liters)up here in Canucklandia.When are those electric powered pickups coming out??Just have to be big enough to carry my 32 ft ladder on top.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
2625 posts
Jun 10, 2008
7:14 AM
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From what I am reading the USA has the resources, but over the years, environmental groups in an effort to protect wildlife and tell the rest of us how to run our lives have tied the hands of industry and government has been a willing accomplice in order to garner the votes of a few loudmouths.
I say enough! DRILL OUR OWN OIL ON OUR SHORES NOW!
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Santandercol
2644 posts
Jun 10, 2008
7:59 AM
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Now we're getting political here.Tony,don't you remember the Exxon Valdez oil spill off Alaska?Or the fires in Iraq on the well heads and pipelines??How about the smog our cars and trucks produce in and around the big cities?IMO it is time we stopped relying completely on the oil companies and a finite resource.Electric cars ROCK!!!!
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Kel.
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SAT Roller
144 posts
Jun 10, 2008
8:21 AM
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I need one of those electric trucks that will pull my bass boat 200-400 miles on a weekend to go fishing.
I also need an electric motor on my boat as it only gets "3" miles to a gallon of gas....
Don't think it will go over 70MPH with an electric motor????
How fast will I be able to tow the boat???
We are stuck on oil, I say start the drilling and building the refineries and send the EPS folks to China, Iran or India and let them clean things up over there....
Richard
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SSLOFTS
21 posts
Jun 10, 2008
8:48 AM
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We just paid $500 for 100 gallons of diesel fuel this morning.I go through 100 gallons a day with my excavator with a stump shear on it.Between the trucks,saws,skidders,grinder and excavators we're going through about 2000 gallons a week.So yeah,We're taking a big hit because of the fuel. I quit for the day at 10:30 this morning.It's 100 degrees out and the ac in my machine quit,so I did the same! Nick
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SSLOFTS
22 posts
Jun 10, 2008
8:54 AM
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SATroller, 7o mph with electric? no problem.You can get some SERIOUS power out of electric motors. I saw a show where they built a drag car with 2 electric motors.They twisted the axles out of it on the first pass.They rebuilt it and it would smoke the tires about an 1/8 of a mile! Nick
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SAT Roller
145 posts
Jun 10, 2008
11:07 AM
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Nick,
I need to get me one of them.......... Most electric cars I have seen are very limited and don't last too long between charges..
Richard
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Square
366 posts
Jun 10, 2008
11:12 AM
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I am big on running,, but thease gas prices got me running about 14miles a week,, LOL..I relize the diffrence in saving the miles on my rig,, but my hamstring's are feeling it!!!
Square
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sippi
334 posts
Jun 10, 2008
12:56 PM
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I only leave home once a week sometimes less. I went to the store and bought two bags of feed and filled my truck with diesel.......$159 bucks. Watched a show yesterday one What if??? and it said we have more oil between us and Canada than the whole middle east. We just have too many bleeding hearts out there hamstringing the efforts.
sippi
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W@yne
1390 posts
Jun 10, 2008
1:19 PM
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£1.30 A litre we are paying over here in rip off England UK that is £6.50 a gallon around $12.50 US dollars and you guys think you got it bad. Been wagons blocking roads over here in protest of these rising fuel costs. We cant afford to run big engine cars anymore just small economical motors. We go for mpg not the comfort when buying a car over here.
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DeepSpinLofts
851 posts
Jun 10, 2008
4:10 PM
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Hey Kel (Rum 30-Lofts)
Where is Canucklandia?
Marcus
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PR_rollers
1198 posts
Jun 10, 2008
6:55 PM
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I guess the ten speed gonna have to come back in style.
wow i can't recall the last time i rode a bike,been that long but the good thing about that is you never forget.. :)
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Ralph
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1-bad-57
48 posts
Jun 10, 2008
9:03 PM
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Bought a 07 Malibu in Arizona and drove it back to Montana. Set the cruise control on 60 mph, got 37 miles to a gallon. Didn't pass one vehical in the 1200 mile trip home every one else was driving 75 to 100 mile per hour. I guess fuel is still too cheap for people to slow down and conserve.
Joe
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Santandercol
2649 posts
Jun 11, 2008
6:36 AM
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Right on Marcus.Canucks are canadians so canucklandia is canada.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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DeepSpinLofts
854 posts
Jun 11, 2008
12:12 PM
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Hi Kel...
Looks like there just isn't any end to these rising gas prices.
I overheard on CNBC (The Cable Financial News Network) that the U.S. National gas price has jumped a penny to $4.05/gallon.
...and
Up..up... and away goes the American dream for millions!
Marcus
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George R.
767 posts
Jun 11, 2008
8:41 PM
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Gas prices are so high that people who have to drive to work are bringing home less Money.
Man Marcus I wish I had it like You ( work from home) I should have stayed in school and got a education then I could have a job Like Marcus.
by the way Marcus what University did you attend ?
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DeepSpinLofts
858 posts
Jun 11, 2008
9:53 PM
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George... I attended community colleges in the cities of Oakland and Alameda California.
....later
I was tutored by a college Physics professor at the University of California Berkeley. He was a friend of the family and thought I was special.
NOTE: I only have a A.A. Degree, but I feel as though I have a Ph.D with all of the intellectual capital (knowledge) I've accumulated over the years.
We are talking more KNOWLEDGE than HARVARD COLLEGE.
Talk to you later George....
Marcus
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Santandercol
2650 posts
Jun 11, 2008
10:26 PM
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Hey Russ and list,
You know what a LOT of Canadians think of the Alberta tar sands?Unless you are an Albertan enjoying the profits reaped from the oilsands there,the extraction process sucks.It takes a lot of energy(fossil fuels) and WATER to extract the oil from that sand.The holes left in the earth when they are done are one of the most ugly things on this planet to look at,and the area they destroy is huge.
Slowly but surely we all need to take a look at our lifestyles and do some changing.Get rid of those big gas gussler boats and trucks.Stay home and grow some of your own food and try hard to eat foods that are produced as close to your home as possible.It is not easy.We eat fruits and veges from as far away as california,mexico and central america.Even our olive oil comes from the mediterranean.Trouble is no one wants to change we are all too set in our ways of living.We are all guilty of alot of waste in some way or other.Shit,I just burned 5 gallons of gas today and yesterday in just my weed wacker and rida mower,cutting grass most of which will just lay there and rot.Maybe our kids will smarten up.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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birdman
599 posts
Jun 12, 2008
6:16 AM
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Kel, it does cost more to extract from the tar sands but from what I've read the cost of the oil recovered would still be less than $20 a barrel.
Russ
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
2630 posts
Jun 12, 2008
7:06 AM
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Hey Marcus, you feel like you do have a Phd because you were tutored by a BERKLEY professor! LMAO! That's a good one!
Hey ANYONE! if you want to be "smart", invest in good books, read and apply critical thinking! All a degree is is a list of books to study and some test to see how much you memorized for a high priced fee between those wild drunken college parties.
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The problem is NOT the oil companies, it is actually those who are in politics and their environmentalists handlers who have tied the oil companies hands over the years by not allowing them to drill within our own borders or build a single new oil refinery since 1976 EVEN WHILE demand for oil has gone up!
The Chinese and Cubans are drilling for oil about 60 miles off the coast of Florida and we cannot. Ask yourself "WHY" we can't?
When the laws of supply and demand are artifically constrained by do gooders such as these under the guise of protecting the environment, it eventually hurts the rest of us with higher prices for gas, corn, wheat, plastics goods, etc...
While the value of the dollar has gone down, it only matters in this scenario because wacko politicians and environmental extremists have put up artificial barriers to the laws of supply and demand (that's what governments do) and forces us to buy oil from outside our borders.
Ask yourself another question. If the environmentalists and certain politicians are so gung-ho for alternative sources of energy, why not LET THEM RAISE THEIR OWN CAPITAL and pursue them? The oil companies are just fine with the investment they have made.
Forcing oil companies to be the ones to do it is like passing laws to force McDonalds to invest in cheaper pizzas.
Why is all this happening? "They" are attacking and attempting to tear down the capitalist system due to their politics.
DRILL HERE! DRILL NOW! DRILL HERE NOW!
There. I have said too much and probably PO'd half my customers! LOL
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Last Edited by on Jun 12, 2008 7:24 AM
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Santandercol
2658 posts
Jun 12, 2008
8:03 AM
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If that is the way you see it Tony,too bad.Keep your blinders on and you will see what is front of YOU.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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Santandercol
2659 posts
Jun 12, 2008
8:06 AM
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If it weren't for environmentalists,this planet would be in even worse a mess.Check out how much the wars are costing us every day.That is where the US taxdollars are going down the drain then into the pockets of few.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
2633 posts
Jun 12, 2008
8:09 AM
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Hey Kel, have you ever heard of the concept of "unintended consequences"?
Get ready...published in the New York Times
"...Such well-meaning laws surely don’t end up harming animals as well, do they?
Consider the Endangered Species Act (E.S.A.) of 1973, which protects flora and fauna as well as their physical habitats.
The economists Dean Lueck and Jeffrey Michael wanted to gauge the E.S.A.’s effect on the red-cockaded woodpecker, a protected bird that nests in old-growth pine trees in eastern North Carolina.
By examining the timber harvest activity of more than 1,000 privately owned forest plots, Lueck and Michael found a clear pattern: when a landowner felt that his property was turning into the sort of habitat that might attract a nesting pair of woodpeckers, he rushed in to cut down the trees. It didn’t matter if timber prices were low.
This happened less than two years ago in Boiling Spring Lakes, N.C. “Along the roadsides,” an A.P. article reported, “scattered brown bark is all that’s left of once majestic pine stands.”
As sad as this may be, it isn’t surprising to anyone who has examined the perverse incentives created by the E.S.A. In their paper, Lueck and Michael cite a 1996 developers’ guide from the National Association of Home Builders: “The highest level of assurance that a property owner will not face an E.S.A. issue is to maintain the property in a condition such that protected species cannot occupy the property.”
One notable wrinkle of the E.S.A. is that a species is often declared endangered months or even years before its “critical habitats” are officially designated.
This allows time for developers, environmentalists and everyone in between to have their say at public hearings. What happens during that lag time?
In a new working paper that examines the plight of the cactus ferruginous pygmy owl, the economists John List, Michael Margolis and Daniel Osgood found that landowners near Tucson rushed to clear their property for development rather than risk having it declared a safe haven for the owl.
The economists make the argument for “the distinct possibility that the Endangered Species Act is actually endangering, rather than protecting, species.”
So does this mean that every law designed to help endangered animals, poor people and the disabled is bound to fail? Of course not.
But with a government that is regularly begged for relief — these days, from mortgage woes, health-care costs and tax burdens — and with every presidential hopeful making daily promises to address these woes, it might be worth encouraging the winning candidate to think twice (or even 8 or 10 times) before rushing off to do good.
Because if there is any law more powerful than the ones constructed in a place like Washington, it is the law of unintended consequences.
by Stephen J. Dubner and Steven D. Levitt are the authors of the book “Freakonomics.” More information on the research behind this column is online at www.freakonomics.com."
I would argue that environmentalists have made things worse!
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
2634 posts
Jun 12, 2008
8:26 AM
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Hey Otis, don't forget the democrat controlled congress and senate led by pelosi and reid, who act as checks and balances to anything the presidents office does.
If nothing done about it, must be "okay" with them!
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DeepSpinLofts
861 posts
Jun 12, 2008
11:33 AM
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Hey Tony.....
I don't feel like I have a Ph.D because I was tutored by a California Professor. I just know a lot more about the Universe and things within the universe than the average human being on our planet.
As a matter of fact... I'm studying and teaching myself to read Heiroglyphics (the ancient East African version)
...well anyway
The Berkeley professor father is from Germany and his mother is a Native-Indian/African American mix.
He's a very smart man!
MEMO: A conversation across the table from a wise man is better than years of study of only books.... for its true that wisdom is acquired by an inquiring mind.
Marcus
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DeepSpinLofts
862 posts
Jun 12, 2008
11:47 AM
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KNOWLEDGE is POWER!
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Marcus
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
2635 posts
Jun 12, 2008
12:04 PM
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hehehehehe...good one Marcus...I am not too smart at all...but I always wondered: if in football, the ball is on the 1 yard line, and the defense is called for a penalty on each play and the referee moves the ball half the distance to the goal as per the rules, how many penalties need to be called before it is an automatic touchdown?
Remember the ball is always moving "forward", halfway to the goal.
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DeepSpinLofts
865 posts
Jun 12, 2008
12:50 PM
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And Tony....
When I say:
===> "We must cultivate our diverse friendships like a landscaper cultivates a garden."
Being a landcscaper of a garden is a lot of work. There are pests and weeds that must be eradicated because as we both know they can be "DEADLY" to our crops.
{P.S.} Gotta run and jump in the shower! My brother is on his way in the Lexus SUV. We will be headed off to shoot some pool and eyeball the honeys.
You know what I mean?
Talk to you later Tony....
Marcus
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George R.
772 posts
Jun 12, 2008
5:48 PM
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Lexus suv WOW Marcus you are Rolling, you guys probably cruise down to the Beach and pick up all the Honeys.
Your living the life of a "ROCKSTAR" Money , Cars, Women, Big House, Work only when you want, Gas could hit 20.00 dollers a Gallon and it wouldnt faze you LOL "YOU DA MAN "
Talk To you Later
George
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Santandercol
2660 posts
Jun 12, 2008
8:48 PM
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Russ,yeah,landscapers cultivate.That is one of my lines of work and I do everything from pulling weeds to rototilling to cutting lawns,firewooding,fencing,rock work,tree pruning,tree topping,raking leaves,falling trees,tree planting,hedge trimming geez the list goes on.
Tony,
Funny how those NYT articles were written by economists,eh.I'm sure it is somewhat true what they are saying,and I'm sorry people are so damn greedy but that is human nature.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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elopez
1476 posts
Jun 12, 2008
8:52 PM
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Katyroller,
Tell me about it. I own a shipping company and have a deisel truck and am almost paying $150 every day on deisel. I have a big family so I also have two SUV. I'm paying $140 on my Avalanche an $110 on the Escalade just about every 3-4 days. I've now started working from home more often as it cost me around $20 just to drive to work...
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Electric-man
1712 posts
Jun 12, 2008
9:17 PM
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I have lived and worked in the oilfieds here in Oklahoma and Texas for the past 25 years! Beautiful country! There has been more holes punched around here than you can shake a stick at! If they produce, they put a submergible pump on it or a pumping unit on it, if it don'tn they cover it up and you never know it was there! Oil co. spend millions on keeping abanded well sites cleaned up, no cost to the land owner! Everything is put back like it was originaly or as the land owner prefers!
The corporation commisioners send inspectors out to check operations out! If there is even a drip of something leeking, the oil co are fined and it is cleaned up!
Our pipelines are monitered weekly with smart pigs! If there is any kind of damage to the pipeline, we dig it up and replace it! Preventative maintience never stops!
Deer and turkey couldn't be found 30 years ago around here, now there in our neighborhoods at night,its becoming dangerous to drive at night! We have them in our terminal here every night! Yep,they prefer the grass that we landscape around our pipelines and tanks over the weeds and sagebrush out in the fields!
Offshore, the rigs are natural reefs, supplying breeding grounds for marine life!
People need to open their eyes and quit believing what the tree huggers are telling them! I live amongst it, wouldn't live any where else! Damn beautiful counrty here in the oilfields!
Drill here, drill now!!!
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DeepSpinLofts
867 posts
Jun 12, 2008
9:49 PM
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George....
There was a time in my life when I was homeless and pushing a grocery cart down the street with all my lifes belongings. This miserable period in my career occurred after I was kicked out of a bachelors studio in Oakland, California (near Lake Merrit) for missing 2 months rent. Unfortunately I was extremely poor then.
We are talking about the winter of 1989 when I was 24 years. Boy oh boy... I sure don't ever miss those crummy days.
Those were some serious "HARD TIMES"!
You know George.... stuff like that a person just never, never, never ever forget!
Gotta run buddy... headed to 24 Hour Fitness to pump some iron. It's triceps, abs and calves tonight.
Marcus
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George R.
773 posts
Jun 12, 2008
9:54 PM
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yeah Marcus I know what it is like to be Homeless at a early age , my mom died when I was 13 yrs old and I became Homeless.
I have been coming off the Ropes all my Life.
take Care
George
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WaTtS UpP
956 posts
Jun 12, 2008
10:40 PM
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I KNOW I PUT 50 BUCKS IN MY RIDE AND IT STILL DOSNT GET FULL SSSSSSHHHH IF THIS KEEPS ON GOING IM GOING TO START PUTTING CORONA IN THE GAS TANK
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Watts uppp homeboy
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DeepSpinLofts
868 posts
Jun 13, 2008
3:07 AM
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Good morning Watts....
$50 Bucks is a lot of money. That should get you roughly 14 or 15 gallons of Unleaded gasoline in Southern, California.
QUESTION: How far can you roll on that much petro bro?
Marcus
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katyroller
232 posts
Jun 13, 2008
4:03 AM
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I agree that we need to start drilling more of our own oil and I also agree that there really isn't any oil shortage. Does this mean I want a oil well in my neighborhood or that we should deliberately waste gas, of course not. I remember driving from SoCal to Vegas and seeing the windmills that environmentalists were complaining about being eyesores and noisy. I would laugh because there really weren't that many people living out there and let's face it, a desert can only be so beautiful. There are still large areas in this great country that are uninhabited and ripe for oil exploration, let's put it to use but not abuse it.
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DeepSpinLofts
869 posts
Jun 13, 2008
8:47 PM
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Up another 2 cents a gallon. I paid $4.61/gal earlier today for regular unleaded at the gas station.
NOTE: Gas stations in some areas are becoming "GHOST TOWNS". Not many of our 9-to-5 workers in the U.S. who are trying to raise a family with mortgage payments, high food costs.... etc, are doing too well these days.
Marcus
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