CVRC
29 posts
Jun 21, 2008
1:20 PM
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Is it better to give ny breeders 16% pigeon pellets or 14% roller mix?? If there is anything different please also post. Right now i have them on the pigeon pellets.
thanks
Cristian Castro
CM Loft
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elopez
1503 posts
Jun 21, 2008
3:07 PM
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I have mine on 28% pellets. Had them on 16% grain and it was okay but the pellets are much better. Young are always fed good.
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
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kopetsa
912 posts
Jun 21, 2008
3:07 PM
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16%
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Andrew
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jerries loft
232 posts
Jun 21, 2008
3:09 PM
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I feed mine 28% pellet also
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Jerries Loft
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Scott
807 posts
Jun 21, 2008
4:59 PM
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Wow guys 28 0/0 ? that is a lot of protien for pigeons,
Are you seeing any feather problems on the tail or flights of the youngsters ?
Christian, 16 0/0 is perfect for rollers
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Just my Opinion
Scott
Last Edited by on Jun 21, 2008 5:00 PM
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CVRC
47 posts
Jun 23, 2008
1:52 AM
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OK thanks guys anyone else has anything to say???
Cristian Castro
CM Loft
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gotspin7
1399 posts
Jun 23, 2008
10:20 AM
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I give mine 22% pellets when breeding with no problems! Just hold your breath!LOL
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Sal Ortiz
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sippi
374 posts
Jul 09, 2008
12:06 PM
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I have asked of a lot of people and one hasnt answered with a definite answer yet.
How much protien is too much??
There is a limit to what most animals can digest and the rest is wasted. The consensus on pigeons is that they cant digest more than twenty two to twenty three percent. I have yet to get difinitive proof of this but sounds about right to me. You can poison them with too much protien. But too much is well above the twenty two percent mark. I have wanted to know what is too much. Even dogs can get too much as some people have poisoned "Foo-foo" with too high protien diet. I can get thirty eight percent cat fish food but I guess it would be too much or even a waste. We used to feed it to game cocks to bring up the protien of the mix. They loved it. I would expect that twenty eight percent is pushing the threshold though.
sippi
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rtwilliams
151 posts
Jul 09, 2008
12:18 PM
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Scott
What problems arise in the feathers from to much protein? Just wondering what to look for. I am feeding 14%, so not a concern just trying to learn.
Thank you
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RT Williams
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CVRC
205 posts
Jul 09, 2008
12:40 PM
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Thanks guys and mine are 16% pigeon pellets Fernando...
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Cristian Castro
CM Loft
CVR
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Last Edited by on Jul 09, 2008 5:10 PM
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sippi
378 posts
Jul 09, 2008
1:34 PM
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J it is just a curiosity thing with me to want to know how much protien can the pigeon physically synthesize. There is data on dogs, cows, pigs and other livestock. The research may have not been done yet. I do not know. And have to yet find out. But if you know this threshhold then you can feed to the max and know that you are doing all that you can do. If you dont know the max then you could be just wasting money and feed.
sippi
Last Edited by on Jul 09, 2008 7:15 PM
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Windjammer Loft
347 posts
Jul 09, 2008
4:47 PM
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Sippi, when I used to work my dogs I gave them the 30% to 32% protien feed. It sure made a difference in their preformance. It seemed to give them quite abit of energy and stamina in their work. As for the birds,I can see a big difference when I feed the 16%,over the 12%. And as for the pellets,mine get 22%
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Fly High and Roll On
Paul
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sippi
380 posts
Jul 09, 2008
7:17 PM
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Paul are the 22% pigeon pellets or chicken layer pellets. They make a game bird that is 28% but again I dont know where the threshhold is.
sippi
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PR_rollers
1378 posts
Jul 09, 2008
7:39 PM
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Sippi I think you are right.because excess proteins is a waste of money because if it is not utilized by the body as a building process or repairing the muscle it will be excreted or store as fat. I think anything under 9 percent the pigeon be in trouble .breeders need lots of proteins the hen lays eggs and pigeons producing crop milk need a high protein diet. I say 20 percent is good enough and I think in a safe zone..----------
Ralph
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Ty Coleman
450 posts
Jul 09, 2008
7:59 PM
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I mix nutriblend green 18% with wheat and milo for the breeders and a little cracked corn every once in a while.I have herd to high of protein causes the birds joint problems. Stiff joints- just what i have herd from a friend no evidence.
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Ty
Vapor Trail Lofts
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lil_jess
122 posts
Jul 09, 2008
11:36 PM
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I was told that the more % the better it is...But make sure you clean that loft goods because those % will come out of there @$$H0L3 and will be smelly %...
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