FireBaller916
9 posts
Jun 30, 2008
4:36 PM
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My foundation pair and a few youngs from them were stolen this morning at 3 am..If anyone from North Sac or South Sac spotted who stole them please contact me at chai_ch3ngsta@hotmail.com...They were all i got...I had high hopes for them this year but due to the fact of them being stolen im left with nothing...Here are a few pics of them...
Foundation Pair
Youngs
Last Edited by on Jun 30, 2008 4:41 PM
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kopetsa
1052 posts
Jun 30, 2008
4:40 PM
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Wow does that ever p*ss me off! good luck with finding them..
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Andrew
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kopetsa
1053 posts
Jun 30, 2008
4:41 PM
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How do you know what time it was when they were stolen at Chai?
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Andrew
Last Edited by on Jun 30, 2008 4:42 PM
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FireBaller916
10 posts
Jun 30, 2008
4:44 PM
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I didnt..It was my sis-in-law that heard something around 3 am but they thought that it was the cat or the wind blowing so they didnt bother to look...What makes me piss off the most is that im here in Alaska visting my in-laws and my birds are stolen in Cali and i cant do anything about...I wont be going back home till August...
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Ty Coleman
425 posts
Jun 30, 2008
5:20 PM
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Those bands should be easy to spot in California.
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Ty
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chewy
130 posts
Jun 30, 2008
5:30 PM
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hey chai..sorry to hear...that...well its true..they usually comes around there..at that time..i remember seeing them thieves..in my yard at 2/40 in the morning..man..hate them thieves...good luck..catching them..
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PR_rollers
1334 posts
Jun 30, 2008
5:31 PM
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yeah but they will cut those bands off,,but those birds do have a distinctive look on them..Hope you get them back thats is the worst when you not even home and be gone for a while..
damn crooks.. sorry to hear that .peace..
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Ralph
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chewy
131 posts
Jun 30, 2008
5:35 PM
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hey chai..did they just stole ur fireball's only..or your roller as well..?
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FireBaller916
11 posts
Jun 30, 2008
5:38 PM
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I doubt i'll get them back...and yeah the bands will difinitly be cut off with the quickness...Hope the thieves get caught one day and be put in jail...What goes around will come back around for them...
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chewy
134 posts
Jun 30, 2008
5:45 PM
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there's a million chances..that u wont get them back..but hope for the best....that's all we peeps that got ripped off..i hate thieves..
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FireBaller916
12 posts
Jun 30, 2008
6:19 PM
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The thieves that stole my birds have to know me because they know exactly which birds to steal...If i find out who took it there gonna be in deep $^%$^%$#^%$# when i get my hands on them...
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916fastspinner
65 posts
Jun 30, 2008
8:49 PM
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sorrie to here that chai...but hope u find them ....it's a total lost when it comes to that....srrie about yur lost..
san
ncrc
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Riding Wind
21 posts
Jun 30, 2008
10:03 PM
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where do you live at chai, which area. I might have to stop flying pigeons where I'm at. I'm new to the sport and if it is that bad with you it can probably be worst for me. It has happened to me one time and they cleaned my a** dry but not this time. Good luck when you get back. And if those birds that went off into the night were the ones that you cherished and specific birds that were taken, your best bet is that someone who knows you and those birds are the ones that five finger discounted you in your yard. So when you do come back you really can't point fingers of who did it but will have a general idea who took them. Make that list and start crossing out names buddy.
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rockx.559
75 posts
Jun 30, 2008
10:25 PM
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From what I hear and seen from others who have gotten their birds stolen like that...for examples you said they only stole the main rollers that were good...trust me most of the time it'll be some one who you know and knows you...and it'll hurt alot to actually find out who that thief was...cuz mine's were stolen once and ended up being some close friends or friend's friend. but anyways good luck with them. I actually went to their house and get the pigeons right in front of them...they didn't say nothing...
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W@yne
1447 posts
Jun 30, 2008
10:52 PM
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Chai sorry to hear this bad news i hope you get these all back.
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W@yne UK
Patience Perseverance Perfection
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Last Edited by on Jul 01, 2008 8:58 AM
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FireBaller916
14 posts
Jun 30, 2008
11:58 PM
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Well, guess like i'll be out of the sport for awhile till I find out who really took them...For now I got some thinking and searching to do...Keep an close eye on your guys birds also...you'll never know what can happen to your birds the next day...Peace
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DeepSpinLofts
928 posts
Jul 01, 2008
10:08 AM
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Hi Fireballer...
I'm saddened to hear about your loss. It's terrible that in 2008 people are still out and about in our society stealing other peoples domestic pigeons.
5 RULES:
1) Don't tell people where you live!
2) Don't tell people you have roller pigeons!
3) If you sell birds to someone you don't know.... then take the birds to them.
4) Don't be outside clapping at your birds!
5) If you have the yard-space, money and time to clean after it.... then buy yourself a guard dog. (Preferably a German Sheppard). Pit-Bulls are unpredictable, violent and can get out of their yard and maul someone. So are Rottweilers.
Dobermans are good if well-bred and trained.... but they too can be tempermental with their owners.
{P.S.} Are you still trying to contact Harry Ashcraft?
Send me an email:
===> deepspinners@usa.com
Marcus
Deep Spin Lofts
Last Edited by on Jul 01, 2008 1:38 PM
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PR_rollers
1339 posts
Jul 01, 2008
10:27 AM
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Marcus i have to disagree with you on what you said here..----------5) If you have the yard-space, money and time to clean after it.... then buy yourself a guard dog. (Preferably a German Sheppard). Pit-Bulls are unpredictable, violent and can get out their yard and maul someone. So are Rottweilers.
I have train and had pitbulls for more than 25 yrs and mines never show me to be unpredictable violent and never got out my yard and maul anyone. now i seen mix mud dog get out and do exactly that. its all on how the owner train his dog..
Ralph
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DeepSpinLofts
929 posts
Jul 01, 2008
10:49 AM
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Ralph.... you ever hear of a All-Pro Quarterback named Michael Vick #7 of the Atlanta Falcons?
Do you know where he is at today?
....and
Do you know why?
Marcus
Deep Spin Lofts
Last Edited by on Jul 01, 2008 1:20 PM
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elopez
1545 posts
Jul 01, 2008
11:13 AM
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Marcus,
Don't forget Boxers, great gaurd dogs and great family dogs.
I have two boxers and a chihuahua. They Chihuahua will bark at any little sound and get the boxers to check it out...
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elopez
1546 posts
Jul 01, 2008
11:14 AM
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Chai,
Sorry to hear this. Hope you get them back.
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Efren Lopez
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rockx.559
76 posts
Jul 01, 2008
12:02 PM
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for some reasons, Im just afraid of pit bull or any mix of it...they look scary and all buff but i guess that's what you have to use to scare thiefs away...and its true how if depends on the owner of the dog train it...
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CVRC
137 posts
Jul 01, 2008
12:40 PM
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I'm real sorry for ur loss... where do u live???
Cristian Castro
CM Loft
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CVRC
138 posts
Jul 01, 2008
12:41 PM
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never mind i saw u live in sacramento...
Cristian Castro
CM Loft
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DeepSpinLofts
933 posts
Jul 01, 2008
1:02 PM
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Efren... yes indeed Boxers are very good. In fact they are probably a better breed than Dobermans. However, I seriously question a Boxers intelligence versus a Dobermans.
Hmm....
In my opinion German Sheppards and Labrador Retrievers will be your most intelligent guard dogs.... now I could be wrong about that so don't quote me.
Hey buddy.... check out the link provided below!
Just Dog Breeds - 155 Dog Breed Profiles From A-to-Z + Large & Small Dog Breeds
Marcus
Deep Spin Lofts
Last Edited by on Jul 01, 2008 1:02 PM
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arminas1
4 posts
Jul 01, 2008
1:03 PM
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you know...a lot of guys have been getting their birds stolen. what do you guys think...is it just coincidence or is something or someone going around?
makes me wonder if i should even fly my birds once i get a kit going.
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CVRC
139 posts
Jul 01, 2008
1:06 PM
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I think that u should fly ur birds just be on the look out for anyone suspicious. i have mine to the back wall of my yard but i have bob wire all around our yard, so im not that worried..
Cristian Castro
CM Loft
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elopez
1549 posts
Jul 01, 2008
1:13 PM
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"This is a dog of high intelligence and a headstrong nature" - Boxer
This is from the link you provided. Some dogs from any breed are just dumb and some aren't.
Plus the boxer looks more tough than other dogs and is still good with the family.
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Efren Lopez
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DeepSpinLofts
934 posts
Jul 01, 2008
1:18 PM
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Efren have you ever seen a white boxer?
White Boxer Dog Photos
Marcus
Deep Spin Lofts
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elopez
1550 posts
Jul 01, 2008
1:20 PM
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Marcus,
I had one out of my flashy fawn male and female. She was all white with one brown ear. She was a nice one.
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Efren Lopez
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DeepSpinLofts
935 posts
Jul 01, 2008
1:21 PM
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Efren...
You got me!
Marcus
Deep Spin Lofts
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arminas1
5 posts
Jul 01, 2008
1:29 PM
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you guys are forgetting the rottweiler as a guard dog. eat a lot and thus, shit a lot. but i think they're tougher than the doberman. but, my older brother just a bought a solid black german shepherd and it looks freaken bad ass...!! so i'm looking for a solid black female now so i feel a little better about my birds.
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George R.
852 posts
Jul 01, 2008
2:39 PM
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Pit-Bulls are unpredictable, violent and can get out of their yard and maul someone.
Marcus I cant agree on this one with you .. our family has had Pits for years and they are loyal , playful, and low maintanance( short hair ) and love Kids.
I believe animals are born with a blank slate and the owners or keepers are the one who start adding to the slate.
A underfed negleted untrained Dog is a dangerous animal regardless of the breed,,,
the Novice
George
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George R.
853 posts
Jul 01, 2008
2:41 PM
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efren arnt white Boxers not allowed in the standard of the Boxer breed.
I was told that a white Boxer can never enter any sanctioned show due to its Color.
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DeepSpinLofts
937 posts
Jul 01, 2008
3:02 PM
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George.... I am not going to argue with you about your sweet and adorable "Pit-Bulls".
...but
I will leave you with this excerpt I quoted from katyroller above.
"Any dog that will knowingly or can reasonably be expected to attack an intruder is a serious liability that the owner must be willing to accept."
Talk to you later George...
Marcus
Deep Spin Lofts
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George R.
855 posts
Jul 01, 2008
3:14 PM
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My dogs are pets and are Family members thus they have to follow the same rules any Family member is held to .
If they are unruly or disobiedent then they will be looking for a new home ..
We did not get the dogs to protect anything .I believe a person should take care of thier property ..
it's really that simple...
The Novice
George
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xueher
16 posts
Jul 01, 2008
4:07 PM
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Hello Sorry chai for what happen bro Im not sure but email me back if you want i still have that pair you gave me if you need something to start with I have a few birds might not be the best but it will give you a start bro. email me back at xue_her@yahoo.com
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flo
137 posts
Jul 01, 2008
4:21 PM
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Damn chai.....
that totally sucks......sorry to hear about your lost dude.....makes me piss off man....i call you later ....
I have a young pair that is just started doing some deep free fall....if you're planning to keep pigeons again...call me and come pick them up...perfect for training.....call me so we can talk more....sorry again for your loss.
chai...besides you telling me you were planning on going out of town....who have you told? these thieves knew whn and where you were at......it is our worst fear when leaving our birds......hate that it happened to you...I'm gonna start to lock up my birds real good now.....who knows who is watching me....if there is anything I can help...just give me a ring....
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FLO
www.blacked-out-loft.webs.com
SAKTOWN, KALI4NIA
Last Edited by on Jul 01, 2008 4:33 PM
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elopez
1551 posts
Jul 01, 2008
7:07 PM
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George,
White boxers can be registered with AKC but they can not participate in any AKC show. My male is AKC Champion sired and my female has AKC champion bloodline. White boxers are somewhat common with show dogs.
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Efren Lopez
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PR_rollers
1340 posts
Jul 01, 2008
7:29 PM
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Marcus you blame all pitbulls because what happen to that quarterback.. like I said I have them ..my whole family has them now... they are very affection loyal .I blame the owner when it comes to dogs...now have you ever had a pit? see I had all kinds and the best dog i had was a German Shepard.but when i got into pits I never got rob again..My kid went to visit my brother one time and she went under the table and his Shepard
started mauling her i had to kick him off and put him to sleep the next day but i don't judge all Shepard for that incident you dig what I'm trying to say..
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Ralph
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
1848 posts
Jul 01, 2008
7:34 PM
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RUDY PAYEN
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
1849 posts
Jul 01, 2008
7:37 PM
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RUDY PAYEN
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katyroller
254 posts
Jul 01, 2008
8:31 PM
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Ralph, I can partially agree with both you and Marcus about the Pits. Pits have a reputation that is partially well deserved but yes, they can make outstanding dogs. The problem most Pit owners have is the fact that they should not be allowed to own a Pit or any dog for that matter. For some reason Pits and Rotts tend to attract the wrong type of people. Any responsible owner will spend the time to train, learn the personality of their animal and be able to identify warning signs. My neighbors Pomeranian has tried to attack me twice because the idiots can't keep the damn dog in the house or the yard. I'd love to beat the thing stupid but it's the owner that needs to be beat.
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PR_rollers
1342 posts
Jul 01, 2008
9:05 PM
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Kay thats exactly my point Pitbulls have a bad rep because of the owners I can show you pics with all my pitbulls and my daughter was 2 yrs old wrap around their neck riding them around like horses.
Like you said learn the personality of your animal and be able to identify their warning signs.. I'm not saying they all are good but you can't knock them all because of the mistakes of others . I had one female oh she would never bite a human being there wasn't a human she didn't love .but I kept her because no one knew that ..because of their bad reputation.I had fun with that one..anyway back to rollers this isn't about pits its about our rollers.good talking to you Kay..
Ralph
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ozrollerman
9 posts
Jul 02, 2008
5:50 AM
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Hope you get your birds back mate,I dont have a problem with theives as i have 2 staffys in the backyard..
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
2646 posts
Jul 02, 2008
6:15 AM
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I use a Shiloh Shepherd and German Shepherd to warn me of trouble. One is stationed next to the loft and the other is allowed to patrol the property (knows the difference between friend and foe). Very intelligent and great around the grandchildren.
Yep, shepherd is the way to go...
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DeepSpinLofts
946 posts
Jul 02, 2008
7:11 AM
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Tony C is a very smart man. That will keep out the riff-raff.
Marcus
Deep Spin Lofts
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katyroller
255 posts
Jul 02, 2008
10:46 AM
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My experience with just about all the "security" breeds convinced me to have a G.Shepherd for my own family security system. Easy to train, loyal beyond belief and more predictable than most. Great all around companion but still not bomb proof.
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FireBaller916
15 posts
Jul 02, 2008
1:14 PM
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Thanks for the heads up guys...Had a call from my mom again today and the thieves are coming back for 2nd...All i got left are just 2 pair of foster parents and one young that i was able to foster out from my foundation pair...But what much can that do...I careless about my foster parents...
Well since you guys mention about getting a guard dog...I dont really need a really big dog...My older sis has 2 mutt dog, one male and one female...I was thinking about using them as a alarm for thieves...The male dog will bark at any movement in the backyard when my sis brings them over...He's a agressive little mutt...LOL....Soo i was thinking about using them as patrol dogs if i was to get back to the hobby...
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155
586 posts
Jul 02, 2008
1:26 PM
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this is what you need for those scandles mother f@#$'ers that like to break in and take peoples birds or any type of belongings...... Sorry for the launge and the violence but all my life i've hated thiefs....
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