kopetsa
1057 posts
Jun 30, 2008
7:18 PM
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By the way I haven't done this and I probably never will, I am just curious.. :)
Anyways What would happen if you breed a roll down with a bird that can't spin at all. I know most will probably say "Oh well more culls or course". But seriously, what would you actually get?? Would one of their babies be a roll down and one not be able to spin at all or would they both be decent spinners..
---------- Andrew
Last Edited by on Jun 30, 2008 7:19 PM
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WaTtS UpP
1025 posts
Jun 30, 2008
7:45 PM
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i think people aint that dumb to waist there time raising a bird that they know isnt going to turn out good just my opinion ---------- Watts uppp homeboy
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PR_rollers
1335 posts
Jun 30, 2008
7:51 PM
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What you gonna have is that roll down gene spreading through the blood of your family.taking a step backwards is what you don't want.. ---------- Ralph
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Hector Coya
197 posts
Jun 30, 2008
9:04 PM
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I think you can get a rolldown out of your best pair,and you can get a bird that never rolls out of the same pair. Breeding a rolldown is not a good idea,however if that is the only bird you have,it dosnt mean all young will be rolldowns,just like that rolldown came out of a piar that for many genarations of good bloodline,the rolldown will throw off many geanes from its parents some better some worse but if its a stable family i think you can breed a few and pick a good stable youngster to replace the rolldown. Hector Coya-SGVS
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kopetsa
1058 posts
Jun 30, 2008
9:07 PM
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Yeah I have only had one roll down ever and I now use it as a foster breeder.. :) I would never breed him either.. ---------- Andrew
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J_Star
1642 posts
Jul 01, 2008
5:11 AM
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You will get rolldowns and birds that don't flip. Remember that the "Apple don't fall far from the tree."
Jay
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JMUrbon
572 posts
Jul 01, 2008
10:49 AM
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There is no science that states you will get roll downs and it is true that you can get roll downs from your best. Believe me I have. It just doesn't make any scence to breed from a bird that Shows you a flaw. Its hard enough finding the ones that dont show you the flawns and getting them to reproduce themselves. Joe ---------- J.M.Urbon Lofts A Proven Family of Spinners http://www.freewebs.com/jmurbonlofts/
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Shaun
668 posts
Jul 01, 2008
12:08 PM
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I'm breeding from a rolldown as an experiment. This bird was locked down as a youngster along with many others. I had no proper breeders, so the youngsters had to mature and then breed. This particular hen escaped at five months old, having never flown before, so I got her back in and decided to settle her. She missed the crucial development period and basically learned to fly at the same time as the roll kicked in. Her roll was very nice and deep... rather too deep as she hit the deck time after time. So, I had to ponder was this nature or nurture? If she had been flown out and come into the roll naturally, would she have rolled down or been able to handle it? I decided to use her as a foster, but couldn't seem to synchronise here eggs with any other pair, so I let her breed a few.
Fast forward a year and I'm currently flying four of her offspring. None have showed any tendency to roll down, and one in particular is looking like my best bird bred last year. What I find interesting is that Mrs Rolldown had great velocity and style before hitting the deck! The offspring are similarly fast and deep, but they have what ma didn't have - brakes.
So, I wouldn't jump to any conclusion about rolldowns. For those who don't have many other options, it might be worth a shot. Naturally, if you have a choice of good, stable birds, then a rolldown will be avoided.
Shaun
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