flyinghigh
9 posts
Jun 30, 2008
9:17 PM
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i have a 1 pair of rollers from great lines. i want this to be my foundation. But I am concerned about line breeding for too long, because I have heard that if you breed too much and too long from with a limited amount of birds then the birds become stiff because the gene pool becomes to tight. So my question is what are you're experiences with this and if you have any problems then what was your solution to the problem because i here that people start out with a limited amount of birds and have stuck with those bird and have never crossed out. thank you for those who reply
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Scott
855 posts
Jun 30, 2008
9:34 PM
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What is it about them that makes you want to make them your foundation,just curious ---------- Just my Opinion Scott
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flyinghigh
10 posts
Jun 30, 2008
10:44 PM
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I stopped raising pigeons for a while and then one day i went over to one of my friends house to say hello i saw his kit fly and i spotted a bird that i really liked. so i asked him if i could have it. He was kind of reluctant at first but he eventually gave the bird to me. The bird happen to be a cock and i asked if i could have a hen along with the cock so he gave me hen from the same kit.
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Santandercol
2703 posts
Jun 30, 2008
11:02 PM
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That's a good way to start out.Breed a bunch of young off that pair.Foster the eggs out and find which are the best young by flying them and breed them back to the parents eventually.It'll take several years but can be done if you figure you have decent birds to start with. ---------- Kel. Rum-30 Lofts
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sippi
359 posts
Jul 01, 2008
7:56 AM
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IF the birds are prepotent, and all are not. You can line breed them forever and not get too inbred. It must be done carefully and with planning. Also IF the original two birds arent too closely related. You can pretzel breed them and the tightest you will get is three quarters of one bird. There is a chart on here somewhere if I can locate it. If not I have one I will post.
sippi
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nicksiders
2903 posts
Jul 01, 2008
8:03 AM
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Explaining line breeding.
'Let me see if I'm starting to get the hang of this: If you have a blue bar cock and pair him with a widow hen who's first mate became supper for a BOP and the widow has a ash red daughter you pair up with the blue bar's sire, that makes the blue bar's sire his son-in-law and the ash red hen his step-daughter and step-mother. When the blue bar and the widow hen have a cock chick, he is brother-in-law to the blue bar's sire and also his uncle and half brother to the ash red hen. Now, when the blue bar's sire and the ash red hen have a little cock chick, he will be 1/2 step-grandson being the ash red's son. So the blue bar's wife, the widow hen is his step-mother's mother, his wife is also his grandmother. Since he is now his wife's grandson as husband of his grandmother I think there is pretty good evidence that he is his own grandpaw!'
By Roy Cook (snake doctor)
---------- Just My Take On Things
Nick Siders
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