Riding Wind
23 posts
Jul 08, 2008
8:57 PM
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I know everyone here has been arguing about color on a pigeon but have you guys ever thought about what the colors mean or do to the spin of the true roller or type of spin to a roller. Example: A white pigeon becomes a blur on a cloudy day creating an illusion that it can't almost be seen in the spin and on a bright sunny day depending on how the skies is can be seen for it's true spinning illusion due to the clear weather.
Another example a dark pigeon can be seen in any time of day seeing all the good and bad traits of that roller.
Third example: A ugly colored roller(grizzle) this pigeon has no determination of beauty but in the eye of the beholder will no matter what but roll with no style or what so ever but speed and velocity. Just simply a hard rolling pigeon.
Do some of you guys think that the coloration on a pigeon affects their style, velocity, and characteristics in the spin of a roller or the roller pigeon itself at all.
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Scott
889 posts
Jul 08, 2008
9:04 PM
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Off coarse it plays in, I fly under a lot of blue sky where selfs look the best,so all my birds are selfs.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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Ty Coleman
437 posts
Jul 08, 2008
9:04 PM
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I dont think you can say that any color rolls better than the other. Just is the case in some families due to the spin gene being on birds of that color. And if i had my choice all my birds would be w/f because it will add a illusion to the spin.
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Ty
Vapor Trail Lofts
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Riding Wind
24 posts
Jul 09, 2008
12:06 AM
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Okay I see where i went wrong here. I mean like if your birds were black and they had certain markings on them like for example like a mottle that is black or white or red or of any color. Right but in another case an all one color roller had a blemish of another color on the neck or the head or the back and no other matching marks on it maybe like a mosaic but not that extreme just a little color to throw the on looker off. do you guys think that these markings would affect the roller in any way. Can these markings be tell tale signs that this certain roller is gonna be a good one or a bad one. Just a thought.
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BA Rollers
23 posts
Jul 09, 2008
12:14 AM
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Nope.
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bertie
335 posts
Jul 09, 2008
4:19 AM
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Well I can see you have no taste in colored birds so I'll just let the rest of the nonsense go.
Grizzles are one of the most beautiful birds I've seen. You must be color blind.
Bert
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gotspin7
1434 posts
Jul 09, 2008
4:21 AM
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Ridingwind, in the family of birds that I have the goods come in all the natural birmingham colors!LOL
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Sal Ortiz
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Riding Wind
25 posts
Jul 09, 2008
12:14 PM
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alright, you guys really aren't seeing what i'm trying to say. so we can just drop this topic. Bert just to let you know I just might have a little more color than you think just no yellows yet and maybe never unless the ladies wanted me to be more exotic. LOL. And yes I do have some real rollers too. They might even be very closely related to your birds and that's a FACT.
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sippi
377 posts
Jul 09, 2008
12:25 PM
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I dont think that any color has any effect on a birds roll. I do believe that color can definitely have an illusion of effect on a birds quality. Some birds look better on a sunny clear day and some look better on cloudy overcast days. I know a black/dark check stands out like a sore thumb in my kits of mostly white flights. They even look larger on bright sunny days, even though both the dark checks I am flying are actually smaller. On cloudy overcast days they dont stand out at all.
sippi
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black_hawk_down
129 posts
Jul 09, 2008
12:35 PM
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Hopefully what you mean by a ugly colored roller are rare colored rollers. Grizzles are beatiful. But i think colors do play sumwhat in the why you see the spin.-joe v.
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rtwilliams
153 posts
Jul 09, 2008
12:43 PM
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I think that a tick mark or something will not help you predetermine if that bird will be a quality spinner. However I have read that these marks help identify other traits (ex gender). And this may help you determine if you want to more attention to a certain bird.
If you know your family well enough such marks my help. I have two black self birds mated, they have a red and black baby. I will let you know if the red is better or not. It will take time.
I would bet that a few guys here know their birds well enough that if a certain physical trait appears, that bird has a higher chance of either making the A box, or to the neighbors loft.
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RT Williams
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kopetsa
1124 posts
Jul 09, 2008
12:56 PM
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Guys what exactly is a self.. a solid colored bird?
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Andrew
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CVRC
209 posts
Jul 09, 2008
1:00 PM
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A solid colored bird is like a Jet black bird or and all red..a bird that is not more than 1 or 2 colors.. JMO
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Cristian Castro
CM Loft
CVR
WWW.COACHELLAVALLEYROLLERS.COM
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BA Rollers
24 posts
Jul 09, 2008
1:41 PM
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Self means solid in color in pigeon terms. In show breeds, self means all one color, no other colors. In rollers the term is loosely used to describe any roller that is void of white.
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Riding Wind
26 posts
Jul 09, 2008
5:48 PM
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Thank you men for shedding some light on the subject. I guess some of these off markings do hold true for a roller. I guess in their eyes color does hold true to ones eyes but if their is no color I guess performance goes to the best cock or hen. Maybe this even applies to a person breeding and pairing birds together. No this is fact! Thanks again guys.
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sippi
379 posts
Jul 09, 2008
7:09 PM
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Andrew a self is a bird that is a solid color with no tail bar or wing bars. Highest in the rank of color patterns. It goes: Spread(self)- T-pattern - Checker - Barred - Barless. Those are the only five patterns colors come in. All are natural in rollers except Barless.
sippi
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