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Birds fly too high
Birds fly too high
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spinner ball
17 posts
Jul 12, 2008
12:57 PM
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I have a problem my kit of rollers when i let them out they go up high and disapear out of site.What shall i do?
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Richard
102 posts
Jul 12, 2008
1:08 PM
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real quick as I have said before on this list. First they are telling you they want to fly away.
Pen them up and don't fly them for SEVERAL DAYS and fatten them up. Besure they are hungry when you let them out .
Richard
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Bill C
103 posts
Jul 12, 2008
5:29 PM
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Hello. I am no expert but I do get control of my rollers by feeding them properly. My guess is that you are overfeeding them. You can take Richards advice and rest them with feed for four or five days. But if they are over fed I would cut the amount of feed. But If they are going thin and are in a rolling comp condition then you should feed them up and rest them. Feel your birds and make sure. Are they in fit condition and getting thin, or do they feel solid and healthy. If they are solid and healthy then cut back on the feed. For say 20 birds I would feed them a table spoon full for about 16 Tblsp for 20 birds. You want your birds to fly only 30 to 40 minutes no longer. If they fly longer take out two table spoon fools when they land and feed them 14 Tblsp. Feed them just one or two more either way to get the time down on them. If they are flying 30 minutes it is unhlikely they will sky out, unless you fly on a high pressur day. If they are young birds keep flying once a day, but if they are hold over birds rolling then fly every other day.
Most of us over feed when we start with rollers. Trust me they won't starve even thought they act like they're starving. You want to break this bad habit of skying out on you by not feeding them so much.
If the birds are in a light conditon you could lose them to overfly anyday now. So check and make sure they are not very thin in the Keel and breast.
You did not post all the information we need to give perfect advice.
How long have they been flying once out. Birds will fly for one hour to two hours if over fed. Cut the feed down. You will also start seeing more rolling in them.
You can feed them a mix or wheat and milo but go back and forth from time to time and don't keep them in rolling conditon all summer. Give them rest for a few days and build them back up and then break them down and you will start to get the feel of how to feed them.
Post any informaiton you have, young birds, old birds, time of say you fly, how much you feed, how often are you flying? everyday or every other day ect. Bill C
Last Edited by on Jul 12, 2008 5:31 PM
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spinner ball
18 posts
Jul 13, 2008
8:57 AM
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Thanks bill for your advice.
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Richard
104 posts
Jul 14, 2008
3:52 AM
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Spinner Ball
Let us know your out come I would like to know and maybe it will help others.
richard
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J_Star
1662 posts
Jul 16, 2008
6:45 AM
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I always say, which is my motto is that “He who masters the feed, will master flying the rollers.” From reading the posts through out the years, there are so many flyers have issues with their birds dotting out. I was one of them and now and then I screw up myself.
The cause of this phenomenon is feed and too much of it. Feeding Wheat and/or Wheat/Milo for long period of times during the summer will cause the birds to loose lots of weight and become extremely fit and too strong. From being light and strong they end up flying for more than couple of hours and they will dot out.
The feeding concept I posted in earlier post was based on my own trial and error until finding the correct medium to have control over the birds at all times…pretty much until I screw up now and then. If you look at it, feeding 20 birds two cups is too much. A cup and half is more like it to sustain and maintain control on the birds. Two cups is too much period.
If you break down my portions of feed for analysis you find that Wheat/Mile is twice the amount of Peas and pellets (2:1) and 6 times the amount of Safflower (6:1) and about 20 times millets (20:1). If you break it down further in percentages, out of 150% (a cup and a half) you will find 90% Wheat/Milo, 45% Peas and pellets, and 15% Safflower and millet. If you break down further by portions of pieces of grain, that would be 5 pieces of Wheat + 10 pieces of Milo + 1 Pea + 1 pellet + 1 Safflower + 5 millets. For each pigeon consumption of the feed out of the cup and a half, you multiply by 5. So each pigeon ends up consuming on average 25 pieces of Wheat, 50 pieces of Milo, 5 Peas, 5 pellets, 5 Safflower and 25 pieces of millet. Now that is more like it.
Wheat will supply the agility and energy, Milo will slow down the wing beat, Peas will make them stick together, speed to their spin and weight them down, pellets will provide nutrition, amino acid, grits and ground up corn to provide heat to the body which in turn will cause the birds to not want to stay flying for too long, Safflower will build their fat content and shine their feather to red them from feather dust and the millet to keep them exited.
If you need to know how to continue maintaining their flight heights for a substantial period of time, just ask. Good luck to all who have issue with their birds dotting out.
Jay
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