jnyce
160 posts
Jul 21, 2008
3:28 PM
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i tried goggling this and several popped up and it was a few that was quite exspensive one toping over 100.00
if so i might have to get rid of one of me hens or maybe im looing at the wrong one but i dont think so
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Tony Chavarria
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2704 posts
Jul 21, 2008
4:26 PM
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Hey jynce, Baytril has been forbidden by the government bureaucracy. Pigeon suppliers were told to stop selling it. However, I spoke with a roller fancier who said his vet was still giving shots of the stuff.
Our "back-up" Enroxil was also taken off the market which was the nearest substitute.
Be careful of any black market supply, don't get yourself caught up in any drug stings. Comply with the law.
There are other acceptable antibiotics that are used for farm animals and poultry, also a few pigeon meds.
Do some research and educate yourself as to how to take care of your own animals. With over 250 birds, I can't afford to run to the vet every time a pigeon sneezes.
Get yourself a couple good pigeon health books and you will be better informed and able to tackle the challenges that the birds throw at you.
Some titles I suggest and are available here for purchase are:
"The Flying Vets Pigeon Health & Management" by Dr Colin Walker
"Avian Medicine: Principles & Application" Abridged Edition by Donald Zantop
"A Veterinary Approach To Pigeon Health" by Dr David Marx
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jnyce
162 posts
Jul 21, 2008
4:33 PM
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thanks tony i did not know this drug was band a friend of mine let me read the 1st and 3rd book that u posted but i still cant find the symptons that my bird is showing and i dont now what else to do maybe i should try 4 and 1 again ??????????????
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jerry t
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Tony Chavarria
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2707 posts
Jul 21, 2008
4:51 PM
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If I recall what you posted, sounds like your birds have either paratyphoid or PMV. One is bacterial and the other viral.
You need to isolate the birds ASAP to prevent spreading the problem. You have to determine what the problem is and I can recommend a product designed for it.
If the bird was a breeder and feeding squabs, my total guess would be its paratyphoid in which case I would give my birds Neomycin 325 to deal with the source of what I believed the problem to be. This is a product that works in the gut.
Other problems from a bacterial infection of the gut are Salmonella and E-coli. They can lead to squabs dying in the egg before hatching, wet nests, birds getting thin in the nest and dying.
Keep the nests and surrounding's clean. Once a week should do it. Preventative measures may be needed to get things under control.
Tell us more about the loft and feeding conditions in which the bird is living under and what it is doing as far as feeding youngsters or just perching in the loft, etc...
NOTE: I am not a vet and any information here is merely anecdotal. I recommend self-educating by building your own library or visiting a vet when you are going to use medications for off label use.
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jnyce
164 posts
Jul 21, 2008
5:05 PM
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the bird is not feeding any youngs she seems to have a hard time eating and she is limping around unable to fly she just stays on the floor i put her in a cage be her self i just cleaned my loft should i disinfect with bleach is this what u mean by clean the loft??? i have been watching all others they seem fine NOte i believe this started when her legs got tangiled in some hair that must have blew in while the loft door was open while cleaning she must have been like this for a few hours i thought it was caused by stress but it has not subsided yet----------
jerry t
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Scott
957 posts
Jul 21, 2008
5:27 PM
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Sulmet
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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jnyce
165 posts
Jul 21, 2008
5:32 PM
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what is the sole purpose of sulmet
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jerry t
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COYOTE33
138 posts
Jul 22, 2008
6:02 AM
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hey!jnyce
she either is lacking in calcium or she eat to much grit.
sometimes a hen will eat so much grit for the calcium she over indulges and this will cause them to go down for a day or two. put her by herself and let the cock feed the young and make sure she can get to the water, she should be okay in a day or two.
coyote
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turkey buzzard
45 posts
Jul 22, 2008
6:54 AM
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Don't know where you live but you can still purchase it in Mexico legally!!!!!!
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
2710 posts
Jul 22, 2008
7:22 AM
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Hey turkey buzzard, I hesitated to mention this because I don't know this to be a fact, and if it is, will the buyer need a prescription to show at the border?
If you try to sneak it through, I imagine you face the consequences of drug smuggling if caught.
Anyone doing this better check it out first. Mis-information can get you in deep doodoo and ignorance of the law is no excuse I hear.
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jnyce
170 posts
Jul 22, 2008
7:26 AM
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no i dont live in or near mexico so that is not an option no sneaking anything across the border for this fella here...lol...but tony thanks for your help and everyone one else who chimed in i appreciate all of u as i am still learning and also tony how many days does it take to receive an order i live in baltimore md ----------
jerry t
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Tony Chavarria
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2712 posts
Jul 22, 2008
7:52 AM
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Hey Jerry, we ship using the postal service. On order checkout, you can select parcel post which is usually 2 to 3 days longer than Priority Mail which is advertised at 2 to 3 days.
So really pretty quick in most cases. We do not charge handling fees so what the post office charges us is what we charge to you. Thanks for asking about it.
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