BBBrollers
2 posts
Jul 22, 2008
11:26 AM
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Just wondering what some of you think is a good number to fly young birds. I have been flying a kit of 30. I wondering if that is too many (too many distractions) for the birds to start rolling. In the past I haven't flown near that meny. Just wondering.
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quickspin
772 posts
Jul 22, 2008
12:39 PM
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It all depends on your experience with rollers and flying kits. I usually start training small kits around 10 and then start adding birds to them no more than 20 per kit.
Monkey see Monkey do. I learn this with pigeons that they do exaclty what they see.
---------- SALAS LOFT
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sundance
663 posts
Jul 22, 2008
1:09 PM
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I like to fly small kits when they are young. easier for me to evaluate who is doing what. 10 to 15 birds. ---------- Butch @ Sundance Roller Lofts
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tapp
612 posts
Jul 22, 2008
6:47 PM
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I fly 20-30 bird kits. When they are young. All I want them to do is kit and fly. Not much I care to see the first few months. Latter I put up ten or so at a time to see who's whos. I still watch them when young the full fly time, Just not much going on! ---------- Tapp
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J_Star
1670 posts
Jul 23, 2008
6:41 AM
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I fly 30 to 40 young birds together and sometimes more depending on my time. I just open the kitboxes doors and they all fly together. When they come down, most of them know their own kitbox. It helps when you have all the kit boxes the same. When they start to spin 8 to 10 feet, I identify the bird or birds and remove them to a box by themselves and continue until getting 20 to 25 birds in the kitbox. Those that start to develop will be put on three day flight rotation with the Yo Yo feeding system. The remaining will fly everyday and the process of plucking the newly developed birds starts all over again. By then what I have left is the ones that are slow to develop or just flippers. I work with them daily until they develop or give up on them.
It is difficult to get 30 plus youngsters to left up above the tree tops but if you know how you will not have a problem flying that many. Always keep your eye on them to evaluate their flight pattern, altitude and the length of time they fly. You never want the young birds to sky out on you at any time of their development process. Keep an eye on the feed and adjust properly as needed. If not sure, hold the birds in for a day to make sure you are on track with their feed.
Keep in mind that if you have BOP problems, this is NOT the way to fly youngsters. The smaller the number the better. I currently don’t have predatation problem during the summer months.
For 20 young birds, I feed them two and a half cups of mixed feed with high protein content and sometimes more or less depending on their trapping behavior. They require more feed during the summer to do the 30 minutes flying or a little longer. I, personally, like them to fly for 45 minutes to an hour tops at about 500 to 600 feet. Therefore, I adjust the feed accordingly to maintain flight time and altitude relationship. Holding the birds too hungry will disappoint you and keeping the birds on too much feed will disappoint you.
Jay
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