rollingline33
47 posts
Jul 29, 2008
9:55 PM
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watt else cud we feed our bredders? things that aint dry!! and old man from el rancho told me to give them tuna!! but im not sure its safe!! he said he would give his pigeons tuna in mexico!! and that he would give meat with chile to his mean rooosters ;) the fighting ones!! so he said that pigeons and roosters are the same.???
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cr250
89 posts
Jul 29, 2008
10:37 PM
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Why do you want to give your birds something other than dry seed?
Brian
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rollingline33
53 posts
Jul 29, 2008
10:43 PM
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cud you imagen eating dry cornflakes all the time no milk? or just saltine crackers breakfast lunch and dinner? thats how i see it!!
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pisto
15 posts
Jul 29, 2008
10:48 PM
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My cousins and I givem pellets and when they have squabs givem warm water, it gives the squabs sort of like an oatmeal Pisto.
Last Edited by on Jul 29, 2008 11:12 PM
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FRENCHROLL
244 posts
Jul 29, 2008
11:02 PM
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lmao lol...u do have a point rollingline33 but I think i'll stick to the dry seed ...lmao that's some funnt s&@#!!!
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"FLY FOR LIFE"
Last Edited by on Jul 29, 2008 11:03 PM
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Santandercol
2863 posts
Jul 29, 2008
11:49 PM
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dandelion leaves are good for them.lettuce,spinach,kale to name a few greens.in moderation.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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gotspin7
1610 posts
Jul 30, 2008
4:31 AM
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33, stick to the pigeon feeds..I feed my breeders 22% pigeon pellets.
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Sal Ortiz
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
1951 posts
Jul 30, 2008
4:37 AM
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33 u forgot the Tequila to drink.......
with tuna and chile.....lol
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RUDY PAYEN
PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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Santandercol
2864 posts
Jul 30, 2008
6:43 AM
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Because they enjoy it,never being allowed to land on the ground.Haven't you ever heard of dandelions being good for the oviducts on your hens?Makes 'em more slippery and the eggs come out easier.Why not is my question.Never mind Jay.Go back to your bottled garlic.LOL.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
Last Edited by on Jul 30, 2008 6:45 AM
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J_Star
1694 posts
Jul 30, 2008
8:03 AM
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You just not gonna let that diced garlic in a jar go do you!
I really don't think they need all that. They go to the ground to eat sand, grit and little stones but since we provide that to them then there is no reason for them to be on the gorund.
We need our rollers healthy but in a status that make them perform their best. I don't know how the greens might effect their performance. I stick with what is tested and true.
Jay
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Santandercol
2865 posts
Jul 30, 2008
9:31 AM
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Bueno!!!LOL.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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Werstler
80 posts
Jul 30, 2008
10:07 AM
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greens are good for them, I feed them lettuce, swisschard, and greens like that when weeding the garden, there are also some weeds they like I have seen them eat them when out sunning and will pick at through the wire if they get tall enough. so when I pull them I just through them in with the breeders, they go crazy for fresh greens.
Werstler - Ghost town Rollers
http://www.freewebs.com/tight-spinlofts/
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mcroller
178 posts
Jul 30, 2008
1:15 PM
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I to toss greens in with my breeders they love the stuff,sunflower leaves they like them lots.
jimmi
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Santandercol
2873 posts
Jul 30, 2008
10:07 PM
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Hah!!Seen my Doneks eating Lilac flowers last spring.Let's see ya beat that jimmi!!How bout banana leaves,jim?Mine ain't big enough yet to start feeding 'em to the birds.First extra ones go to wrapping Tamales in this 1/2 Latino household.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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Santandercol
2874 posts
Jul 30, 2008
10:12 PM
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Jay,sorry I have to make a further comment please don't take offense but your last statement is like saying "I've refused to eat tomatoes all my life till I'm 12 and done just fine so now I'm 13 I'm gonna keep on not eating tomatoes because it is tried and true."
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
Last Edited by on Jul 30, 2008 10:13 PM
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J_Star
1697 posts
Jul 31, 2008
5:36 AM
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Well Kel..no offense taken at all. But I refuse to make Rabbits out of my rollers. If I need to feed them lattice and carrots, I will get rabbits and couple good recipes.
Those rollers are for performance and I use what is tested and true to peek their performance and be able to manage them. I don’t know how to control rollers when they are on greens and I don’t want my rollers to hop like rabbits.
Pigeons are healthy in nature. They need minimal maintenance to stay healthy. We as people are kind and our kindness become ignorance to the way nature works. People want to save that sickly or injured birds because of our kindness instead of removing such birds to strengthen the stock of birds they are working with.
Adding things to the water, over medicating and feeding greens, adding garlic, ACV, bleach, vitamins and heavy protein feed and what have you lead your rollers become racers...then get racing homers instead.
You need to be able to break down your rollers and build them back up at any given time to get the max out of them. If that is not the case, then homers will do and allot cheaper.
Jay
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PR_rollers
1457 posts
Jul 31, 2008
6:12 AM
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I think they are talking about feeding the breeders not the kit birds all that healthy stuff.I myself don't see anything wrong with providing a little natural into there diets.I don't do it but maybe one day i will try it on my breeders I'm open minded. if it won't hurt them. but as far as the statement goes how would you like to eat cornflake all day .remember these are animals not humans they are happy with what ever they get.
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Ralph
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PR_rollers
1458 posts
Jul 31, 2008
6:20 AM
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Adding things to the water, over medicating and feeding greens, adding garlic, ACV, bleach, vitamins and heavy protein feed and what have you lead your rollers become racers...then get racing homers instead.
You need to be able to break down your rollers and build them back up at any given time to get the max out of them. If that is not the case, then homers will do and allot cheaper.
Jay
How you see Homers being a lot cheaper.I had homers before rollers and they were expensive in every way.matter of fact more money in feed because they don't get broken down with less food.
adding Garlic and ACV doesn't turn your birds into racers I think you need to take those out the list.now bleach is a no no..vitamins occasionally.on rest days they can make the birds fly longer stronger too.heavy protein feed no need for that too unless you are breeding.
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Ralph
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Santandercol
2877 posts
Jul 31, 2008
6:35 AM
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Rollers into rabbits?You're funny Jay!Good one.
Ralph,good points made.But Jay,even the kitbirds are not machines and who keeps their birds at peak performance condition all the time,especially if you are a backyard flyer and not really into competition.Here we have the W/C and that is it so we have lot's of time to mess around and by that I don't mean mess them up.Feeding them greens is just like going on vacation and I like to pamper my birds once in a while.Cheers mate,and keep posting.It is good to have someone to debate things with in a civil kind of way.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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J_Star
1699 posts
Jul 31, 2008
7:17 AM
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Ralph and Kell, you get homers right from under the bridges. I can send you dozens from downtown here in Cleveland.
Kell, I didn't say peek performance at all times!!!
Giving the stuff mentioned to the breeders, I can go a long with. There are unnecessary benefits to that but for the life of me I don't see how it will benefit the kit birds.
Believe me pigeons are healthy by nature. The access of stuff that we give them is unnecessary cost that can be easily eliminated. Try it for yourself and go for 6 month without giving the rollers the extra stuff that I stated above and you will notice no degradation of their health or demeanor. We should all maintain a strong flock where only the fittest to survive to strengthen our stock. Given the unnecessary stuff will only make the pigeons dependent on them. Maybe the difference between our views is that I don’t see the rollers as pets, I see them as teammates and I am the coach.
Jay
Last Edited by on Jul 31, 2008 7:24 AM
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