Oldfart
764 posts
Jul 31, 2008
3:46 PM
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Hey All, How much danger exists for birds that are totaly isolated from any outside contact? No other birds except the original stock present. Discounting poor sanitation and environmental conditions, wet feed or quarters. When provided with good ventilation, a dry and clean environment,with clean water, and grit then wormed on a regular schedule, just what is the risk? What does the fancier need to watch out for?
Thanks, Thom
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sippi
435 posts
Jul 31, 2008
4:56 PM
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If you discount sanitation you have almost no threat. We have pox here in Florida. I dont vaccinate for it though because it is so prevalent it is better to let them get it and then they are immune. Mice or contaminated feed would probably be your next most likely threat.
sippi
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bigbull
42 posts
Jul 31, 2008
5:16 PM
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oldfart
that's a good topic.what to do if an out break
come's about? my 08 young birds have been dropping like
two a day.so far my last round of 20 flyers.I've been treating my birds with fish mox forte=amoxicillin 500mg
capsules.treatment for squeakers, stick a hole in the top
of the capsule. press the back of the capsule one or two times and you
will get a puff affect it's 500mg a capsule so you can treat seven birds young or old birds.5 day treatment. direc oral in to the mouth of the young roller.pro-vital in
drinking every.
ps you can get amoxicillin powder from tony here at rpdc.
don't give them to much. i find that it has helped me this time.oldfart i clean my loft and flying units/boxs alot.
breeding area is nice no deaths are out breaks master loft.
bigbull
flying solo
south los angeles
BRICK RED LOFTS
Last Edited by on Jul 31, 2008 5:24 PM
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Scott
1020 posts
Jul 31, 2008
5:57 PM
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Thom, I keep a closed loft here for the most part and don't worry too much about anything,
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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Oldfart
765 posts
Jul 31, 2008
6:09 PM
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Hey Guys, I breed from the same family, including out-crosses. They are in total isolation and in all probility will remain so. I also guard against mice with traps and bait, even glue boards. Feed bins are air tight. I was not sure if there are any airborn deseases or any other desease I could not guard against.
Thanks, Thom (The worry wart!)
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Scott
1022 posts
Jul 31, 2008
6:22 PM
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Thom,many would also progress much further if they quit dragging home pigeons and concentrated on their best , that is as long as they have a couple of good ones to begin with.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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Oldfart
766 posts
Jul 31, 2008
6:56 PM
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Scott, Ruby's
Thom
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J_Star
1703 posts
Aug 01, 2008
5:09 AM
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Allot of times catastrophe happens in the loft from the feed you buy. If the feed was contaminated with mice dropping and urine, then you got yourself a nightmare. It is very difficult to detect contamination in the feed and most people don’t even think of it or suspect it.
Wheat and other grains are stored in silos in the farms before packaged and shipped. Many feed stores will store Wheat in Silos and when a customer asks for 50lb bag, they fill the bag on the premises for the customer. You know that when there are grains, there are mice. Don’t take the feed you buy for granted. Inspect it before using it and save yourself a nightmare.
Jay
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Oldfart
768 posts
Aug 01, 2008
6:19 AM
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Thanks Jay, That is good advice but how can you tell with a pigeon mix?
Thom
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Shadow
178 posts
Aug 01, 2008
6:22 AM
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Good dry loft,good ventilation,with good care being shown, results in very little problems,only thing you have to be wary of are airborne viruses,not forgetting you can carry those in yourself,also any new birds introduced,should be kept isolated from your own for at least three weeks.
Last Edited by on Aug 01, 2008 6:23 AM
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Shadow
179 posts
Aug 01, 2008
6:26 AM
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Worried about the feed, 5 to 10 seconds in a micro wave will sort this out,sufficient to kill any fungi etc.
Last Edited by on Aug 01, 2008 6:26 AM
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Oldfart
769 posts
Aug 01, 2008
7:54 AM
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Shadow, I would never have thought of using the microwave to sterilize feed. How did you determine the length of time needed? I don't think I'm at risk but any and all precautions should be taken. Thanks for the idea!!!
Thom
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