kopetsa
1250 posts
Aug 01, 2008
9:28 AM
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My baby dove was brutally beaten.. look at the pic.. do I put some ointment on him.. I WILL NOT KILL HIM.. HE FELL out of his cage and was brutally beaten.. HELP!! Or do I put him back with the parents in an enclosed section..
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Andrew
Last Edited by on Aug 01, 2008 9:29 AM
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flo
160 posts
Aug 01, 2008
10:06 AM
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I had some baby rollers ended up like that when I had a capuchine pigeon taking over a nest. he destroyed one of the young rollers just like that. I put "Vick's vapor rub" on him. It helped a lot. Neosporin would work quicker but I liked how the Vick's was strong in scent (like a mint smell) that kept the flies from taking advantage. this was just my experience...tony may be able to help you out with his products.
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FLO
www.blacked-out-loft.webs.com
SAKTOWN, KALI4NIA
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kopetsa
1251 posts
Aug 01, 2008
10:16 AM
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An Indian Fantail this to him.. thanks for the help.. This little dove ended up near his nesting grounds!
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Andrew
Last Edited by on Aug 01, 2008 10:16 AM
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kopetsa
1252 posts
Aug 01, 2008
10:37 AM
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Will feathers grow back?
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Andrew
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ArlenS
93 posts
Aug 01, 2008
3:04 PM
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Andrew,
Hand feed & water it. You can grind up oatmeal in a cuisinart, or mix corn meal or cream of wheat and force feed it with a syringe with the tip cut off. It may still recover. Isolate it. Birds keep picking on a bloodied bird. If it lives, the feathers will grow back.
Last Edited by on Aug 01, 2008 3:05 PM
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ArlenS
94 posts
Aug 01, 2008
3:06 PM
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An eyedropper will work also.
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sundance
687 posts
Aug 01, 2008
3:31 PM
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wow, Ive had this before too, but never that bad. He`s in pain for sure. You can isolate him and hand feed him if he needs it. It looks like he should be old enough to eat on his own. It will probably make it, and the featheers will grow back. But WOW again. I never had one this bad, so anything could happen.
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Butch @
Sundance Roller Lofts
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classicpony
697 posts
Aug 01, 2008
3:56 PM
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call it a mercy cull.
Jim
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trevsta65
304 posts
Aug 01, 2008
4:03 PM
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many years ago i put a pair of indian fantails in the breeding loft with my other show birds the cock bird killed all the babies in the loft while i was at work it was was a lesson well learned. andrew you cant keep certain breeds together son you have to do something about it before its to late
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cheers trev
Last Edited by on Aug 01, 2008 4:35 PM
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Opinionated Blowhard
108 posts
Aug 01, 2008
4:32 PM
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Feathers will grow back from a slight scalping. But this is far too extreme. This bird will not recover fully. You need to euthanize this bird and remove the indian fantail from your loft before he kills other young birds. He's a menace.
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TAWhatley
156 posts
Aug 01, 2008
5:53 PM
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I'm hesitant to post about this case simply because it seems to me that the "easy" way out is often taken here on Roller-Talk rather than seriously trying to help or save a bird, but I do not feel this little dove needs to be "terminated". It needs to be isolated, kept very warm, and hand/tube fed if needed. The Vicks Vapor Rub might do a fine job of keeping the flies away, but I'm sure it is quite painful to a bird with that much exposed skin/tissue .. probably burns like the dickens.
I would opt for Neosporin or any good triple antiobic CREAM (not ointment .. too greasy) and perhaps one with a pain killer in it.
JMO .. Good luck if you try to save this little one.
Terry
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sundance
692 posts
Aug 01, 2008
5:54 PM
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this must be a trait with Indian Fantail cocks. I had one years ago that done that 1 time. after that I got rid of all the fantails.
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Butch @
Sundance Roller Lofts
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kopetsa
1258 posts
Aug 01, 2008
10:15 PM
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Thanks for the info.. I will not kill it.. But why is ointment too greasy for it? Why is that bad for it? :)
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Andrew
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quickspin
783 posts
Aug 01, 2008
10:21 PM
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That is one of the main reasons of having them in Individual Breeding loft.
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SALAS LOFT
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Santandercol
2881 posts
Aug 01, 2008
10:52 PM
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Oh man,can't you see that bird is suffering?Have a heart man and send it to bird heaven.Some folks are to much inclined to not want hurt their own soft feelings for an animals own well being.You are saving that bird because you don't have the heart to do the right thing.Andrew,it is the cold,hard facts of animal husbandry,now don't be so damn stubborn because of your soft feelings for your pets.It is the same as the animal rescue centres that accept baby seals found abandoned on the beach.Why can't they allow nature to take it's course.You made the mistake of leaving a little dove in with meaner temperament birds,you should maybe learn to accept that,learn from it and move on.Very poor advice from TWhattely.The only pain killer gonna work on that is morphine.
Sincerely,
Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
Last Edited by on Aug 01, 2008 11:29 PM
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city-side-lofts
230 posts
Aug 01, 2008
11:20 PM
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hey kopesta one thing to learn is never keep your doves in with pigeons the pigeons are way to hard on a dove i found that out the hard way it will never work out the doves will get pecked and maybe loose an eye like the one i had did or much worse it could get pecked to death so keep the doves in a diffrent area not in the same loft unless you have a totally isloated area for doves only
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city-side-lofts.piczo.com
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kopetsa
1259 posts
Aug 02, 2008
12:28 AM
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Hey guys the doves.. have their own pen with a trap in the roller pen.. it's just that the baby somehow managed to squeeze out.. He is doing fine as of right now and is walking around and asking the parents for food.. They are feeding him very much.. He is very fat!
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Andrew
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SSLOFTS
87 posts
Aug 02, 2008
5:19 AM
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Look at that poor thing,I'd put it out of it's misery.That can't feel too good.Your mistake caused it and I think you should do the right thing and put it down.Only my opinion,your bird do what you want.I like the tree hugger attitude of taking the "easy way out".I would call it doing the humane thing,instead of letting the thing suffer.If you are that worried about it,why don't you pay to take it to the vet instead of trying to treat it yourself??? I wouldn't waste the money myself,because I could breed up a bunch more just like it.Like my bumper sticker says" Hug a logger,you'll never go back to trees"
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mcroller
181 posts
Aug 02, 2008
9:47 AM
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have to agree with Kelly on this ome
jimmi
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kopetsa
1261 posts
Aug 02, 2008
10:54 AM
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UPDATE:
The little dove died early this morning.. :( :(
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Andrew
Last Edited by on Aug 03, 2008 12:29 AM
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TAWhatley
157 posts
Aug 02, 2008
7:09 PM
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I'm sorry the little dove died, but I appreciate you giving it a chance.
When using ointment or even cream it gets on feathers outside the area being treated and makes for a really greasy bird. When they are already injured, you don't want to have to be giving them baths to try and keep the other feathers in good condition. Cream is just less greasy and messy.
Terry
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Santandercol
2893 posts
Aug 02, 2008
10:29 PM
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Sorry Drew,but it happens sometimes.Chin up and breed some more.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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Windjammer Loft
367 posts
Aug 03, 2008
6:21 AM
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kopetsa...Sorry for your loss. Its heart breaking to have somthing like this happen but, it's for the best. We try and try but to no availe nature takes it course. So don't feel ALONE my friend, we have all felt the pain, and had this happen to us at one time or another.
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Fly High and Roll On
Paul
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cr250
94 posts
Aug 03, 2008
11:43 AM
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Sorry to hear that,at least you still have the pair don't you.
Brian
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kopetsa
1280 posts
Aug 03, 2008
10:39 PM
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Yeah I still have the pair and its albino nest mate..
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Andrew
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