kopetsa
1294 posts
Aug 04, 2008
10:17 PM
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What do you think..
BEFORE:
AFTER:
p.s. This is definitely the meanest bird I have ever raised.. (he looks like junk, because he is just coming into the moult..)
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Andrew
Last Edited by on Aug 04, 2008 10:18 PM
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cr250
101 posts
Aug 04, 2008
10:22 PM
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Nice red mottle,doesn't even look like the same bird.
Brian
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kopetsa
1295 posts
Aug 04, 2008
10:24 PM
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thx Brian, now is this a spangle or a mottle..
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Andrew
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CVRC
422 posts
Aug 04, 2008
10:25 PM
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nice looking bird...he does not look like the same bird...
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Cristian Castro
CM Loft
CVR
WWW.COACHELLAVALLEYROLLERS.COM
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cr250
103 posts
Aug 04, 2008
10:26 PM
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I think a mottle,not sure though.
Brian
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quickspin
787 posts
Aug 04, 2008
10:41 PM
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He sure doesn't look the same as before. What is the time frame between the two pictures?
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SALAS LOFT
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kopetsa
1296 posts
Aug 04, 2008
11:14 PM
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I'd say about 3 months..
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Andrew
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gotspin7
1637 posts
Aug 05, 2008
4:26 AM
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Big change.
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Sal Ortiz
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sippi
454 posts
Aug 05, 2008
6:02 AM
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Most birds this pattern are mottle. He looks to be also. A sure ways to tell is to look at individual feathers. If they are one color he is mottle. If they are two colors on the same feather he is spangle.
Sippi
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rollernewbie
38 posts
Aug 05, 2008
10:39 AM
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dang that one big change...looking nice tho..
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-Billy
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KiddenAround
9 posts
Aug 05, 2008
10:58 AM
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This is a really cool post -- got me inspired to keep a photo journal. Thanks for sharing!
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-- Laura
Professional Thrill Seeker
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kopetsa
1297 posts
Aug 05, 2008
12:12 PM
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Thanks guys.. Yeah this is definitely the biggest change throughout 2-3 months that I have ever seen. No problem Laura! lol
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Andrew
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rollsoffury
163 posts
Aug 05, 2008
1:02 PM
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That's a amazing change in such a short time. Nice bird good luck with it.
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Roll it
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dodonut
13 posts
Aug 05, 2008
5:31 PM
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turns out to be a mottle? who's the parent to the little youngster there..
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still doing my homework on roller..
Jim.M
Last Edited by on Aug 05, 2008 5:31 PM
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kopetsa
1304 posts
Aug 05, 2008
7:34 PM
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Thanks, I'll try and post them tonight sometime..
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Andrew
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CSRA
1614 posts
Aug 07, 2008
3:43 AM
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i hope he turns out some good ones for you
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ducket
24 posts
Aug 07, 2008
2:30 PM
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Hej Lads & Lasses,
The above bird is a spangle as it is mainly white, a mottle is a bird that is nearly a self but with mottling ( white )on the wing shields.
Eric, Denmark.
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kopetsa
1334 posts
Aug 07, 2008
2:51 PM
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Thanks, I'm sure when he is finished his moult, he will lose quite a bit more red.. I will update this when he is done. (If I can remember.. lol)
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Andrew
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tapp
625 posts
Aug 07, 2008
3:10 PM
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Sippi, Thanks for telling how to tell them apart. I never knew a spangle had two colors on one feather and a mottle one.Now I know! Thanks for the pic. Andrew
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Tapp
Last Edited by on Aug 07, 2008 3:13 PM
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mcroller
191 posts
Aug 07, 2008
3:45 PM
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big change
jimmi
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ducket
25 posts
Aug 07, 2008
4:06 PM
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Hej Lads & Lasses,
The above bird is a Red Spangle, if a feather has two colours then it could be Grizzle, if one of the Parents was a Grizzle then it could be a Red Grizzle but if both Parents were non Grizzles then it is a Red Spangle there are no two ways about it.
Eric, Denmark.
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JMUrbon
605 posts
Aug 09, 2008
11:02 AM
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Eric I have always been told that a spangle hatches with its colors and a mottle gets its colors as it moults. I would have called this bird a mottle. This is also a very common color pattern for Rec reds. A spangle would also have a lot of white throughout the chest area. Joe
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J.M.Urbon Lofts
A Proven Family of Spinners
http://www.freewebs.com/jmurbonlofts/
Last Edited by on Aug 09, 2008 11:04 AM
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ducket
30 posts
Aug 09, 2008
12:22 PM
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Hej Joe,Lads & Lasses,
I am not concerned about show markings, I am talking about the markings found in the flying B.Roller. I have not heard that before, what you wrote, I also breed a few red spangles and they have all ways been like in the two photos, they are mainly red until the moult, then they moult out to be spangles, that is to say that they are mainly white with varying degrees of red around the neck, shoulders and chest. A mottle is for the most part a self coloured bird with varying degrees of white on the wing shields, as in a typical black mottle for example.
Eric, Denmark.
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