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THE PERFECT TEAM (BY GRAHAM DETER)


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PR_rollers
1486 posts
Aug 08, 2008
5:26 PM
Jose I have read and recorded some of this info.a while back .. If a person would pay attention to this writing he will learn a lot because knowledge is power..there is alot to learn from these words of Graham Dexter glad you posted this for the newbie and oldie,,,Thanks .,,
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Ralph
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736 posts
Aug 08, 2008
5:47 PM
yea i also seen it on the nbrc book. this is some good info
for as young rollers guy in this hobby it will help.......
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EVILLOFT'S
155
737 posts
Aug 08, 2008
6:07 PM
**(I LIKE THIS PART THIS IS GOOD INFO)**
The fancier who has the ability to see what is going on in the team, to be able to recognise the signs of excellence and also the individuals who are disturbing the team is the one most likely to succeed. The fancier, of whom I know too many, that watches the team for only a few moments then turn their attention to the tea break is sadly not going to make it. This type of fancier, when they are in another fanciers back garden, tends to study the construction of the loft, the breeding boxes, the kit boxes, the feed bin – while the birds are in the air. These fanciers will never learn what they need to learn about a team of birds from these efforts. Although all of the aforementioned curiosities are valuable – but should be attended to after the kit has landed or at least flown some time. The fanciers that don’t pay attention to the team in the air are seldom likely to become the astute observers that they need to be for success.
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EVILLOFT'S
PR_rollers
1487 posts
Aug 08, 2008
7:31 PM
Jose ,
My best part is when he discusses about individual and mark birds,, but this one made me laugh at the last part when he says send it back to the manufacturer with a note lol..
Basic notes on training.
Rollers that are bred from good stock don’t take much training at all. Once the youngsters begin to fly ensure the only place they land is on the landing pole or loft top. Ensure youngster are fed what they need to build proper bones and muscle, but at all cost prevent them becoming overweight or emaciated. Fly youngsters once or twice a day but use your observation skills to ensure you are not exhausting them by over flying or losing fitness by under flying. Sometimes youngsters that are very active need flying less to allow them to get stronger, and sometimes they need flying more if their fitness is suffering or less because the rolling effort is making them tired. On the other hand lazy youngsters are often a problem, as they cause the rest of the team to drop early and thus their fitness suffers. Fly the lazy ones more often with other teams if possible, take them a ride out for a 1 mile fly back until they get on with it, and if all this fails (and don’t wait too long) send them back to the manufacturer with a note!
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Ralph
155
738 posts
Aug 08, 2008
7:56 PM
i think all of this is some good info i hope all of the new guys in this hobby can pick up somethink out of this i know i did lollllll
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EVILLOFT'S
PR_rollers
1491 posts
Aug 08, 2008
8:08 PM
Oh yea me too I definitely pick up some and going for more,,lol..Pensom with his book help me start out and Graham help add the finishing touch.like i said Knowledge is power but what good is Knowledge if is not apply,...I'm glad to know this has help you and you taking it in..shows you are on your way to the top and I will see you there lol..
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Ralph
155
739 posts
Aug 08, 2008
8:14 PM
i hope so lollllll hope to see you first. i been want it to buy some penson books i guess i will they will do good for me in this hobby
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EVILLOFT'S
PR_rollers
1493 posts
Aug 08, 2008
8:45 PM
I learn a lot from this one when i started."The Birmingham Roller pigeon",both of his book has the same title i notice.
but this one is like yellow and beige,this is one part i learn and always use till this day.
AT the beginning ,the young birds are taken from their parents at the earliest time possible ,when they are about 18 days old. this may seen too early for some fanciers, but they can be assure the young pigeons will soon learn from each other how to take care of them self.Observation will show that this early tuition,derived from defending for themself,creates in the young birds more activity,An early recognition of their owner,an increase eagerness to use their wings,and best of all, an outstanding intelligence.especially adaptable to an early recognition of their loft and surrounding.

This gets better but "i'm tire and going to bed.the other book is a all white one Dick Stephen send me this one as a gift.has alot of interviews with some old timers ,Bob Evans.Joe M Heins.Francis J Buckley.Ray Perkins.Charles River from Berkely California and others in how they do it.good book..
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Ralph
Mark_Wilson
12 posts
Aug 09, 2008
8:18 PM
Good Info thanks...
Velo99
1879 posts
Aug 10, 2008
7:55 AM
I printed it off. It now resides in the Archie Bunker Reading Room.
First discussion question from the article,whats the significance of the tail being tight or spread while the bird is flying?
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V99
Straight up,no chaser.


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