-mannyfresh- spins
40 posts
Aug 16, 2008
11:20 AM
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ok guys I was reading a post and they were askin what roll was better...I was jus wonderin wat exactly is the "H" roll,"A" roll, and "V" roll? ----------
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Electric-man
1947 posts
Aug 16, 2008
2:46 PM
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It is the position of the wings when they roll! A = they touch at the top, H = they would be straight, V = wider than an H! I'm guessing that the axle roller is more of a straight out wing position!
I'm pretty much self taught, so I may not be right on with my answer, but I can't stand to see someone set here with no answer!
Hope this helps!
Seldom do we have the experienced guys here take time for us novice flyers anymore! Seems like we're not worthy of their time anymore! They just come here to spar with one another! We will just have to help one another it looks like, and learn as we go!
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Val
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scrimpscrampi
36 posts
Aug 17, 2008
12:13 AM
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Electricman, I am gald that you said that! I have posted before and receive little response. I enjoy the conversation with the novices (like myself), but ther are many out ther with years of knowledge and they seem to just brush aside greenhorn questions. It has become very discouraging! But, I will go on! lol! I love my birds too much!
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scrimpscrampi
Tulsa, OK
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gotspin7
1721 posts
Aug 17, 2008
4:49 AM
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Fellas this is what I found in a old folder I hope this helps clarify some of your questions.
It goes from Ideal spin to the worst spin available..lol
These should be what you seek in your loft and nothing less
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Sal Ortiz
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gotspin7
1722 posts
Aug 17, 2008
4:50 AM
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Scrimpscrampi, are you flying in the fall fly?
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Sal Ortiz
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-mannyfresh- spins
41 posts
Aug 17, 2008
6:57 PM
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thnx for ya responses...n its tru dat the experts kinda don't try n explain stuff like dat to us newbies..lol..o n thnx for da chart..kinda helps..
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-mannyfresh- spins
Last Edited by on Aug 17, 2008 7:00 PM
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Electric-man
1950 posts
Aug 17, 2008
7:36 PM
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Sal is someone you can count on! He only checks in early in the mornings, but he is THERE for the novice flyers! I have a ton of repect for him!
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Val
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xueher
26 posts
Aug 17, 2008
7:56 PM
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Awesome display there Sal Way 2 Go.
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ezeedad
745 posts
Aug 17, 2008
8:45 PM
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Sal,
Thanks for the sketches... I have seen them before, and I don't think I agree with the one on the leftm because in my experience the bird that completely balls up doesn't show the hole. What do you think?
Paul G
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-mannyfresh- spins
42 posts
Aug 17, 2008
11:29 PM
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well thnx again for ur answers...really appreciate it..n feel free to pos sum more...lol
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gotspin7
1726 posts
Aug 18, 2008
4:47 AM
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Val, thanks!
Paul, I actually agree, to me this is the bird that just shrinks on the roll, and you also know what I think about the hole..lol..Remember longer backs, and of course everything else has to fall into place.
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Sal Ortiz
Last Edited by on Aug 18, 2008 4:48 AM
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scrimpscrampi
39 posts
Aug 21, 2008
6:50 PM
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Gotspin...no, I just started over with some new blood and I don't have a kit going good yet. I guess I could just suck it up and do it, huh? lol! Besides, I have never seen a judges fly before! I don't even know what to really aim for outside what I read on here. I would like to attend some of those fall flys this year though.
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scrimpscrampi
Tulsa, OK
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gotspin7
1753 posts
Aug 22, 2008
4:41 AM
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Scrimpscrampy, you are not to far away from me, I think..lol..You are more than welcome to stop by on this side and watch some kits fly.
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Sal Ortiz
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sippi
484 posts
Aug 22, 2008
11:35 AM
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The chart is very good for a general comparison, BUT not many birds will show the hole. I was convinced for years it was an optical illusion. But this year I saw it with my own eyes with my own bird. This bird has better than average speed and perfect style and good depth. This bird starts slow and gets faster for thirty feet blurring out towards the end.
You have to be in perfect position also to see it. A bird has to be pretty close to the ground for you to be able to see the hole. I did some trigonometric calculation to determine how high the bird could be before it was no longer visible. It is not very high.
I will dig it up and post it if the Hurricane doesnt get the power. The eye is seventy five miles from me and coming straight over my house in about twelve hours. Ten to twenty inches of rain or more.
Sippi
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sippi
485 posts
Aug 22, 2008
11:35 AM
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The chart is very good for a general comparison, BUT not many birds will show the hole. I was convinced for years it was an optical illusion. But this year I saw it with my own eyes with my own bird. This bird has better than average speed and perfect style and good depth. This bird starts slow and gets faster for thirty feet blurring out towards the end.
You have to be in perfect position also to see it. A bird has to be pretty close to the ground for you to be able to see the hole. I did some trigonometric calculation to determine how high the bird could be before it was no longer visible. It is not very high.
I will dig it up and post it if the Hurricane doesnt get the power. The eye is seventy five miles from me and coming straight over my house in about twelve hours. Ten to twenty inches of rain or more.
Sippi
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Scott
1104 posts
Aug 22, 2008
11:41 AM
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Paul,button down the hatches and be safe.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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sippi
487 posts
Aug 22, 2008
11:44 AM
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Thanks Scott. This is just a minor one. We need the rain. May have to repair the road to the house though but I have a dump truck and backhoe.
sippi
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Scott
1105 posts
Aug 22, 2008
11:53 AM
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At least not a 3 plus
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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