Pumpkin Man
1 post
Aug 18, 2008
5:57 AM
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Hey guys,
I'm new here. I have some young birds that have been flying a couple months. They kit when I let them out, then they open up and then they kit at the end of the fly. Is this normal for young birds? I would like to see them stay together the whole time. They are not rolling yet, just starting to flip a little.
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J_Star
1717 posts
Aug 18, 2008
10:55 AM
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The birds break up because each individual bird is coming into the roll. They go on their own for a while to practice their own then they get back to the team. That is normal behavior for the first few months. Be patient.
Jay
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CVRC
470 posts
Aug 18, 2008
12:59 PM
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first of all....welcome to the forum..... and if they are young it is normal so just hang in there they will start kitting good pretty soon.....good luck
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Oldfart
795 posts
Aug 18, 2008
2:56 PM
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pumpkin man, Welcome to the site. You might try flying them one of two at a time, then if they kit, add one at a time until they are all kitting. If you have two or three that are kitting and you add one that dosen't, pull it from the kit and add another until you have the marjority kitting. Then add the non kitters one at a time. If they still do not kit, then consider them as fosters. Kitting is as important as rolling or even more so! A bird that won't kit is worthless it is not worthy as a kit bird or breeder. They only have the potential of causing harm.
Thom
Last Edited by on Aug 18, 2008 2:59 PM
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gotspin7
1733 posts
Aug 19, 2008
4:39 AM
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Pumkin man, Welcome to the site! Second I would start flying those birds twice a day to see if that helps (get them kitting properly) if it does not, I would start looking at individuals that have the bad habit, sometimes young birds will have a buddy system, in other words one particular bird will follow another.
P.S...Be patient!...lol
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Sal Ortiz
Last Edited by on Aug 19, 2008 4:40 AM
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Pumpkin Man
4 posts
Aug 19, 2008
5:35 AM
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Thanks guys. I'm trying not to pull non-kitting young birds too quick, but don't want to ruin the ones that are kitting. Thanks for the suggestions. I will try flying them twice a day. Does anyone have an idea of how long you can leave non-kitting young birds in a young-bird kit before you ruin the rest of the kit?
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Newbie 08
17 posts
Aug 21, 2008
2:31 PM
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I have homed my first 17 new birds in the last 2 weeks and lost just one. I have watched all of them fly and have broken them up in teams. I have taken the best 9 and called them my A team. The remaining 7 is my B team. They are young they fly really good together just doing the tail sets right now no rolls. I let the B team out first they fly for at least 1/2 hour and come right back in for feeding. I keep the A team in another cage. Once the B team finish eating I let the A team out. Now being new and not really knowing much what I do notice that these 9 birds on the A team kit really well they stay tight and seem like they all take turns rolling they may roll about 5 to 10 feet and get right back in the kit. This A team fly for at least 35 to 45 minute when they get ready to land they all stay together around 100 feet over the loft and roll to bring them closer to the roof. I whisle and two minutes there in the cage. I have flown this team 4 times together my question is are they doing well. I'm new at this but it looks really good to me and they waste no time getting back in the cage after flight but I know that's because they know I'm going to feed them.
Last Edited by on Aug 21, 2008 2:37 PM
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Electric-man
1962 posts
Aug 21, 2008
2:52 PM
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Sounds like your doing very well to me! They should even get better with time! Stay consistant with them though!
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Val
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Oldfart
796 posts
Aug 21, 2008
6:31 PM
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pumpkin man, They are doing great, what you are doing is working! Just keep on doing the same! The only suggestions I could make are in the field of study. Start researching how and when to medicate, or what provenative steps to take. Study the next breeding season, what type of breeding program suits your objectives? Open or closed? There are dozens of questions and you are in the right place! Keep them coming!
Thom
Last Edited by on Aug 21, 2008 6:33 PM
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Newbie 08
19 posts
Aug 24, 2008
5:47 PM
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I know this is not the norm and has anyone experience this. I purcashed 6 more young birds. I had just released them in the loft and went in to check the water. Soon as i open the door 1 flew out and was gone. I was like oh well. I took one of my bird that usually will come right back in if he's flown already and let him up hoping the bird would see and follow. well my leader came back in and i locked up. The next day i let my two kits up for the days fly i let the B kit up and when they trapped I let the A kit up. they trapped 30min later and I lock up . woke up saturday morning and lo and behold the new bird that was in my loft for about 2 minutes and was gone for 2 days was sitting on top of my loft trying to get in?? has this happened to anyone before to home a bird which really hadn't been in your loft over 5 minutes?? Or was this just pure luck ??
Last Edited by on Aug 24, 2008 9:00 PM
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sippi
489 posts
Aug 25, 2008
9:04 AM
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That was just pure luck and nothing else. Usually when a non homed bird hauls butt away he is MIA forever.
But you will probably never lose that bird again.
Sippi
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Mount Airy Lofts
773 posts
Aug 25, 2008
9:21 PM
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Pump...
I'm no expert but it sounds like you just need to fly them on a consistent basis. Say every day. If you are and they are still playing these tag games, I would split them into two groups. I kind of sounds like you have some high fliers in the group vs the normal. I mean, young birds aren't suppose to fly high any ways until they build some age and muscle.
Any who, sounds like you are on your way... just remember that there will be many more headaches with a few smiles in between.
Have fun and learn as much as you can from the birds,
Thor
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Last Edited by on Aug 25, 2008 9:25 PM
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