every since i got into rollers 4 months ago i have a differnt out look on the way i see pigeons i use to raise tipplers and rollers that i breed from the pet shop the just turned ova a few times they didnt spin .. now its nothing but the best for me i have always wondered why someone would pay 50 bucks for one bird instead of going to the pet store and spending eight but i know now!!!!! i cant account for the endless hours spent in my back yard with my birds my wife use to complain about me running the streets all the time now its my birds i tell her at least im home and if im doing a chick its in my loft lol... think god for these gift we know as birmingham rollers