TheGame
155 posts
Aug 20, 2008
9:14 AM
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How long do you give young birds before you cull and remove them?? My birds have been out for a 2 weeks now flying since their first day and I have one bird that always wants to land early or not fly....
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sippi
477 posts
Aug 20, 2008
9:40 AM
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Two weeks is a little short on time before you cull. Most will fly the time after they start well but one bird may not be getting its share of food. That would be the first thing to check. Does it trap right back in quickly? Or does it just want to lounge around on the box. Handle the bird and check its condition. You may need to feed it seperately for a week or more. Cull isnt always the answer. Patience in all things.
sippi
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Electric-man
1955 posts
Aug 20, 2008
9:43 AM
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If its not dragging the other team down, I would give it some more time! Things that I look for when they act like this is, could be slightly ill. Does it stay puffed up a lot? Check to see if its eyes are watery, does it have any drainage from its nose? Does it sound raspy when it breathes. Check its mouth for canker. Pay attention to its poop, is it watery or unusually green? Is it too light or maybe to fat! Might be wormy. Could already be molting and not feeling well.
If its lazy, try taking it a couple 100yds away and releasing it. Break its normal cycle that its used to! Change its feeding habits, more or less depending how it looks. Lots of things to try! You have to decide whether your time is worth it! I have gone both ways in the past, so its up to you!
I had a couple doing this last week and I sent them up for their final chance a coop came in and took one of them and now the other one sticks to the kit like glue!LOL In this case, I'm glad I was patient!
Good luck
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Val
Last Edited by on Aug 20, 2008 9:47 AM
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TheGame
156 posts
Aug 20, 2008
11:09 AM
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Well the bird does sometimes stay puffed up so im assuming he might be a lil sick or something...the bird is also calm around people and not as skittish as the other birds.
As far as droppings go. I have been seeing red colored droppings...any idea what this could mean?
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Electric-man
1956 posts
Aug 20, 2008
11:28 AM
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Sorry, I'm still not familiar with to many illnesses! I get a little respitory problems around weaning age, and a couple bouts of canker maybe, but thats about it! Knock on wood!
I'm sure you will get some advice soon though!
I used to be a little quick to get rid of problem birds, but I'm learning to be more observant and patient in my old age!
Good luck!
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Val
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CSRA
1632 posts
Aug 21, 2008
10:52 AM
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It all depends on the patience of the handler if they do what they are supposed they should be fine
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TheGame
159 posts
Aug 21, 2008
11:37 PM
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OK I got a couple of questions on proper training...
1. When the birds are still in flight about to land should you call them down, shake the feed can etc....?? Or should you wait till they land and then call them in?
2. Whats the best way to encourage the birds to fly more or longer?
3. I have a bird that lands early.... Should I keep this bird locked in when I let the rest of the guys out?? That way the other can fly more and maybe longer?
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fhtfire
1464 posts
Aug 22, 2008
9:05 AM
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If the bird is a YOUNG bird...I have a lot more patience. What I will do is let the bird eat all it wants for a couple days while the other birds fly. SOmetimes they do not get enough grub and they keep going down hill..once they continue to get weak from lack of food..they just keep getting worse. So when you fly the other birds...keep the bird in the kit box and let him pig out I would go three days.
Also remember that it is the time for the moult..so the birds act all wierd...you will have birds staying away from the kit, landing early, bumping etc...and it is the moult...that is why my birds get more rest (older birds) during the moult and lots rich feed...I really do not care to much about performance during the moult..so they waste there energy on new feathers and not recouping from a fly.
As far as culling...unless they are totally retarded they get a couple chances as young birds...as they become yearlings....I start culling any birds that land early (on a continuous basis) or they are affecting the team in a negative way.
As far as old birds...if they are not doing it....they are not in the team ..they are on the BBQ. You do have to give the birds time and you have remember that birds are living creatures..just like us..and they will have there good and bad days...so you have give a little slack.
Look in the reading room...I wrote and article on the birmingham roller fancier...I explain a lot of things in that article...
rock and ROLL
Paul
Last Edited by on Aug 22, 2008 9:06 AM
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mario
45 posts
Aug 22, 2008
2:54 PM
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i agree with Paul ....we have to be a little bit more patient ......i have a bird that wanted to go drink in a little lake before to go in the kit-box ,i gave him 2 weeks off and he never dit it again...i also had a bird that was always landing bad .out of control ..i gave him a couple weeks off too and he s a lot better ...Mario
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Windjammer Loft
389 posts
Aug 22, 2008
3:45 PM
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TheGame...patience is a virtue...be patient and all will usually work its way out.
Listen very closly to what the List hast offered You...
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Fly High and Roll On
Paul
Last Edited by on Aug 24, 2008 5:57 AM
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