Anthony
16 posts
Aug 22, 2008
9:53 AM
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Please clarify for me, I'm confused. What will I be eligible to vote on, by just being member of the NBRC? I have not had the birds to compete like I would like too. But, plan on entering the FF and W/C next year.
Last Edited by on Aug 22, 2008 9:54 AM
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turkey buzzard
65 posts
Aug 22, 2008
2:08 PM
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To vote on fly activities you have to have flown in the preceding fly. For the NBRC it would be their fly and the WC it would be their fly. There are general things to vote on that everyone usually gets to vote on and they are posted in the NBRC Mag.
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Ballrollers
1407 posts
Aug 23, 2008
7:59 PM
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Anthony,
The next vote that is coming up, will be whether a majority want to rename the fall fly. If you fly in the FF 08 and your NBRC dues are up to date, you will be eligible to cast a vote. The ballot should be in the NBRC bulletin. The NBRC flyers, men who support and enter the NBRC sponsored fly, are the ones who are allowed to vote on fly related issues. The NBRC EC run the day-to-day things that keep the club functioning. It is up to you to let the NBRC regional director of your region know your opinion on issues that are before the NBRC EC. To do that you need to sign up to get on a e-mail list to have access to what the EC is doing in your behalf. All NBRC members are eligible to vote in leadership elections, President, vice president, your local regional director and one or two other positions, that comes up every two years. Contact you NBRC RD and your WC RD to let them know you want to compete. They will keep you updated on how much and when. Good luck!
Cliff
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Tony Chavarria
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2754 posts
Aug 24, 2008
1:36 AM
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So Cliff, that's interesting, so as for being able to vote on issues concerning the national club, unless you fly in the fall fly, my paid membership to the NBRC amounts to nothing more than a subscription to the bulletin?
In my efforts to be a responsible flyer and lock down birds in the fall due to the increased hazard of bop, I am penalized for by not being allowed to vote? hmmmmmm
This year, I spent 2 months preparing for the World Cup Prelims to be thwarted by heavy winds again...regularly work my rear off trying to fly and breed better rollers...but I don't get to vote...?
That sure don't seem right to me, but what do I know? I guess I am way off base in asking about it or bringing it up. But I know one or more has the info that will set me straight.
Oh, one other thing, did only members who flew in last years fall fly get to sign the petition that was presented to the club to change the name of the event?
Don't mean to be a pest but your post above got me wondering about the value of my membership in terms of voting on such important and potentially controversial issues affecting the success of the club.
So to be a true "voting member" on important issues, its the annual club membership fee AND, what was for our region, a $40 fall fly entry fee? Will signing up to fly but a DNF on the score sheet count for being able to vote?
I ask this because I have a few more days to get my $40 Entry Fee in.
Cliff, like I said, you got me wondering about this. Can you or maybe Nick, our new RD give me some clarity on my questions and concerns? Thanks!
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Last Edited by on Aug 24, 2008 4:19 AM
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Ballrollers
1408 posts
Aug 24, 2008
8:29 AM
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Tony,
I guess I did not make myself clear.What I thought I stated is that if you flew in, entered the FF and supported the fly, and had your dues paid up, you will be able to vote on any issues that concern the NBRC sponsored flys requiring a chage in the fly rules. If you entered a kit, you will get to vote; your score does not matter, DQ's or DNF's count and show you supported the fly. Once again...NBRC members who "SUPPORT" the fly will get a say so on those issues that involve NBRC sponsered flys. IF you do not enter a kit, do not regularly fly, you will not get a voice in how those choices are made. ALL NBRC members with up to date paid dues, get to vote on all leadership elections open to them, President, Vice President and their local RD and one or two other offices. There are other issues that arise from time to time that are put up for a vote of the generalmembership, such as in the Bradley/Hester incident. The NBRC EC takes care of all the other business needed to run the day to day activities of the club, and that does not require a vote of the membership to do so. We have just started a new program that allows NBRC members to get on an e-mail list to be advised of the issues that are being discussed and that their RD will be voting on. It is then up to that member to contact his RD to let him know his opinion on that topic. Your paid up membership and close contact with your RD is your best way to help guide the club other than be an elected/appointed official. WE have open leadership elections every two years, but few other formal cast-ballots elections. In a quick check, I only see 3 maybe four NON leadership elections in the last 10 years or so and most of those issues were fly related The NBRC membership has many ways to have their voice in club business........and you get the bulletin and you get to order NBRC bands. Members are encouraged to send in articles to the NBRC bulletin. By the way, that Earl's list petition was open to anybody who wanted to sign; si it was not able to be properly monitored as to membership vs. flyer's support. This votes , however, will be only from members who register in this year's national championship Fall Fly. Cut Nick a little slack, he will do his best to represent your region, but it is up to you to let him know your position on things. There is no job description for NBRC Regional Directors. It is on the job training. I hope that answers your concerns. As to the WC flys. You get NO VOICE in the WC issues other than how your RD votes. There are NO OPEN ELECTIONS to the WC flyers. The WC is NOT a club and has little interest in what the flyers think. They sponsor a fly. That's it. The WC membership has NO direct votes as to the WC Director or any leadership officers. Your regional LADS elect/choose your WC RD's. The WC RD's choose/elect the WC officers. So, I wouldn't worry about voting in WC elections....... for there are none.:0)))
Cliff
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gotspin7
1762 posts
Aug 24, 2008
8:38 AM
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Cliff, great info! Thanks for sharing.
Tony, great question.
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Velo99
1887 posts
Aug 24, 2008
11:56 AM
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I thought the question was about the NBRC.
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nicksiders
3126 posts
Aug 24, 2008
1:45 PM
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It was felt that only those who participate in the Fall Fly would truly have an interest in changing the name of the Fall Fly. If you don't fly in it why would you even care what the name of it is?
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Ballrollers
1409 posts
Aug 24, 2008
5:19 PM
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Kenny,
I was replying to a statement made by Tony. I thought he said, "This year, I spent 2 months preparing for the World Cup Prelims to be thwarted by heavy winds again...regularly work my rear off to fly and breed better Rollers...BUT I DON'T GET TO VOTE..?" Maybe he was refering to the NBRC fly last fall. Or maybe he confused the two. That is a common mistake. There is no relationship between the two organizations, except they both support the flying of performing rollers.
Cliff
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
2755 posts
Aug 24, 2008
8:12 PM
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Oh...Thanks!
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Tony Chavarria
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2756 posts
Aug 24, 2008
8:14 PM
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"If you don't fly in it why would you even care what the name of it is?"
Oh, I don't know, maybe because I pay membership dues or something? LOL
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George R.
981 posts
Aug 24, 2008
8:42 PM
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Tony
The price of a membership doesnt even cover the price of the NBRC bulletin each member recieves every two months.
I think it cost aproxx. $2.50 per bulletin just to mail it to each person .
At 25.00 dollers a year for 6 issues it is a great deal.
The Novice
George
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Tony Chavarria
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2757 posts
Aug 25, 2008
5:31 AM
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Hey George, now that's funny! LOL
Now really, how much does it cost? :-)
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Anthony
17 posts
Aug 25, 2008
5:56 AM
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Like a lot of you I could care less what the fly is named. Heck, I did not even know there was a vote on it. I had heard there was some stipulation on what you could vote on by just being a member and not flying. Cliff, thanks for clarifying that for me. And like I said I plan on being a flying member next year, if nothing happens.
I agree with Tony though. I think that all members should be able to vote on the issues. I know that there are some things that the Directors vote on and that is OK with me. That is why we have them.
$25.00 does not sound like a lot in the times that we live in. But. $25.00 X non flying members of the NBRC = A good bit of revenue.
Plus most of the non flying members are members simply to get bands and maybe the bulletin, and could care less about the issues up for vote. I doubt that the hand full of non-flying members that would actually send in a vote would make alot of difference.
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