cr250
114 posts
Aug 25, 2008
11:31 AM
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I have had 2 birds die.It seems like they weren't eating.They were skinny and their crops were full of water.They were young birds but were old enough to eat on their own.They were laying on the ground and really weak.Anybody have any idea what could be wrong?
Thanks Brian
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cr250
115 posts
Aug 25, 2008
9:13 PM
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Someone suggested it might be sour crop.These are new birds from the same source.Is it contagous?I treated all my other birds with 4n1 when the first one died.Today the 2nd one died.Its been a week.All my birds are doing good.
Brian
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Santandercol
2940 posts
Aug 25, 2008
10:37 PM
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You've done the 4 in 1 thing if any more show up sick get them outta there quick into sick bay.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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cr250
116 posts
Aug 25, 2008
10:50 PM
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I have seperated them,one seems really healthy and the others our real thin but are eating.What do you think I should do?
Thanks Brian
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Santandercol
2943 posts
Aug 25, 2008
10:55 PM
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If they have had their dose of 4 in 1,give them yogurt or a probiotic,then just keep them well hydrated with electrovites in their water then give them vinegar in their water after that,baths with epsoms salts and keep your fingers crossed.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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cr250
117 posts
Aug 25, 2008
11:09 PM
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Thanks Kel,just plain old yogurt?Keep you posted
Brian
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Santandercol
2950 posts
Aug 26, 2008
7:09 AM
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Yes,a tblspoon of yougurt in the water fount will work just fine.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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J_Star
1725 posts
Aug 26, 2008
7:19 AM
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Your birds had Coccidiosis. This might help:
Coccidiosis Made Simple
By Jay Alnimer (J_Star) 2007
Coccidiosis is an intestinal disease that is widely distributed among pigeons throughout the world. Cocci inhabit the small intestine of nearly all pigeons. Along with trichomonads, Cocci are the most commonly found protozoa in pigeons, occurring in the form of two eimeria species (E. labbcana and E. columbarum). Cocci form permanent stages (oocysts), which only become infective after maturing in the environment.
Following ingestion of the oocysts, their subsequent developmental stages damage the intestinal wall. Within 4-7 days of infection, the pigeon starts to excrete oocysts again. There are two form of Cocci; The asymptomatic form, which occurs most frequently after ingesting small quantities of oocysts for the first time. Pigeons develop immunity to the infection due to stimulation of endogenous defense mechanisms, without visibly succumbing to the disease. With this protection, which is reinforced by constant ingestion of low levels of oocysts, the birds live in a kind of equilibrium with the parasites, which also protects them against sever intestinal disease. The visible form of the disease with an acute course and severe generalized disturbance, occurs when still unprotected young pigeons become infected by ingesting large amount of oocysts or the immunity of older pigeons is reduced or broken down by stress factors.
Symptoms of the disease:
Asymptomic form infested birds appear healthy, albeit rather less lively. The droppings are sometimes rather soft. The acute course, visibly affected pigeons produce malodorous, muco-aqueous, greenish and sometimes bloody diarrhea. The pigeons become listless, have puffed up plumage and drink profusely with reduced feed intake.
Treatment:
Some of the recommended medications are Bird Sulfa, which contains Sulfamethoxazole and Trimethoprim that treats variety of disease including Cocci, Paratyphoid, Sour Crop, and E.Coli. Corid (Amprol) for Coccidiosis is another super medication to consider for treatment. 3 In 1 Multi Mix is also a great combination of the most common health problems; Canker, Coccidiosis and Worms. Amtyl Powder is another super medication, which is a broad spectrum antibiotic that dissolves easily in water. Amtyl Powder is made of a combination of Amoxixillin Trihydrate and Tylosin Tartrate, which are combined to produce a highly effective and safe antibiotic to treat a wide range of bacterial infections.
Jay
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cr250
118 posts
Aug 26, 2008
8:17 PM
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Hey Jay,thank you for that post,I think you are right.The others are eating except one didn't eat as much as the others did.Do you think they could have it and can my other birds get it even though I gave them all 4n1.
Thanks Brian
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TheGame
165 posts
Aug 26, 2008
8:26 PM
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Eeeeeeek!! Not to hijack your post Cr250 but one of my birds is doing the same thing!! I took the bird over a friends house where he will treat it hopefully all goes well...
Last Edited by on Aug 26, 2008 8:27 PM
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Santandercol
2952 posts
Aug 26, 2008
10:12 PM
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Game,
Might be a good idea to treat the whole flock.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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cr250
119 posts
Aug 26, 2008
10:41 PM
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Game,I hope this doesn't Happen to you It sucks.I just hope I don't lose any more birds.Thanks Kel for your advice too.
Brian
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cr250
120 posts
Aug 26, 2008
10:42 PM
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Game,I hope this doesn't Happen to you It sucks.I just hope I don't lose any more birds.Thanks Kel for your advice too.
Brian
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J_Star
1728 posts
Aug 27, 2008
5:31 AM
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Cr250, Use 4n1 for 10 days. make sure you take away all other sources of water. Do not give them bath water for that period. My choice would be Amtyl...the best I have found to treat my flock.
From the looks of it, you are due for some serious loft cleaning. The sooner, the better.
All pegions have it, however, the young are more in the danger zone to become sick from it because their ammune system are not developed yet. Best of luck.
Jay
Last Edited by on Aug 27, 2008 5:34 AM
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gabe454
1211 posts
Aug 27, 2008
8:04 AM
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Hey cr250 quarentine all the birds that have the symptoms medicate only the sick before coccidiosis spreads are what ever might be 4 and 1 works real good!
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TRIPLE "G" LOFT
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cr250
122 posts
Aug 27, 2008
11:50 AM
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Thanks everyone for your help.No signs of any sick birds today.I'am cleaning the loft and kit boxes today.I keep them pretty clean so its not a big chore.I changed all my nest cups too.Keep you posted.
Brian
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