quickspin
829 posts
Aug 27, 2008
1:05 PM
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I have most of my birds going through the molt and some have been acting strange.
Some that kit always now land early or non kit.
Some got too deep and bounce.
Some got sloppy on the roll coming out.
I kept flying them and some I rest for a few weeks like the deep ones and the the ones that didn't wanted to kit. They all seem to got better now but I still notice that they still are in to the molt. How long does it usually last? I have one problem bird still and is the one coming out of the roll nasty. Like he wants to pull out but doesn't. He had a real clean, smooth roll before. I check his primary wings and they are coming out they still have blood. Will this still be a issue affecting the quality of the roll? He is 9 months old and always been a good kit bird.
---------- SALAS LOFT
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155
757 posts
Aug 27, 2008
1:36 PM
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good one.... ---------- EVILLOFT'S
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gabe454
1214 posts
Aug 27, 2008
3:57 PM
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Hey whats up quick spin my birds are doing the same thing well my young ones right now but the molt is the problem. ----------
454 TRIPLE "G" LOFT L.P.R.C
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sippi
494 posts
Aug 27, 2008
3:59 PM
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Personally I dont fly mine while the primaries are in the blood quill stage. But yes it will affect the roll. Imagine an ingrown toenail on your foot and walking with it. Similar situation.
sippi
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PR_rollers
1532 posts
Aug 27, 2008
4:12 PM
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yeah and that can be painful, I rest them too when they are in that blood stage. give a lot of oil seeds. this is a good time for me to judge there mentality some will be control by the roll they will crash some will not roll at all fight the urge to roll they control the roll. but all and all is still painful and some will roll down because of it.just feel them out if they don't want to fly let them rest.but you can help them get through the moult faster..this is the time i put Epsom salt in the bath helps with the healing, ---------- Ralph
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sippi
496 posts
Aug 27, 2008
4:59 PM
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Levi's "The Pigeon" has a chart in it that tells when a bird will moult which feather feather by feather based on six birds as a sample group. Great reading I will see if I can copy it and post it.
Sippi
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PR_rollers
1533 posts
Aug 27, 2008
5:34 PM
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Sippi you know thats the first book i bought many many years ago when i was trying to learn about the tipplers. I saw that book in a pet shop and took it home. i have to dig in my library box where i keep all my books.. ---------- Ralph
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gotspin7
1780 posts
Aug 28, 2008
4:46 AM
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Quick, the best advice I got when it came to this was be PATIENT they will be what they were before they started molting. Good Luck! ---------- Sal Ortiz
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quickspin
831 posts
Aug 28, 2008
10:43 AM
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Privious years I was not flying at this time because I would get hit and I was lock up till next year. This year seems better not many hits so I been flying more.
Thanks
---------- SALAS LOFT
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Square
441 posts
Aug 28, 2008
10:56 AM
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yea quickspin I have had some go trough to molt hard... what I have done is take the really bad ones and put them in a seprate kit box if avilible,, and get some peanut oil,, or safflower oil and apply a heaping table spoon to their feed can ration be sure the seed is kinda shalacked with the oil. Only feed as much as they will consume withen reason... Do this every other feeding for a week, the dropping will go loose.. after this you should notice a huge diffrence. The birds will shine and kinda be slick to the touch, and alot more snappy in their disposition.. it's worked for me hope this helps... oyea it works for bird's not in the moult also. good luck
Square.. ---------- "Home of the Ghost Town Roller" K.C.R.C
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PAUL R.
3 posts
Aug 28, 2008
11:19 PM
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You may consider using vitamins, minerals and addition, because feathers are made of protein, you must add extra protein in their feeding. Increasing the peas, adding saflower, the use of oil as mention prior and a immune booster.
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sippi
499 posts
Aug 29, 2008
7:56 AM
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Booker your post reminded me of something that happened to a friend a while back. She went on vacation and had a friend feed the birds for her. The "feeder" got the dose of wheat germ oil confused and gave them ten times the amount. When she returned two weeks later the birds looked like oil soaked rags. It took about a month to get them back to normal but at least they couldnt get wet.
sippi
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Square
442 posts
Aug 29, 2008
10:14 AM
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LOL sippi thats crazy,,, guess you can O.Dum on it.. Used withen reason it keeps my rollers feeling SMOOOOTHE...LOL
Square.. ---------- "Home of the Ghost Town Roller" K.C.R.C
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Newbie 08
30 posts
Sep 16, 2008
3:24 PM
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Ok can someone explain to me what the molt is all about. I notice my birds are starting to loose some feathers around the back of the neck area. When doe this moth satrt and how long does it last ?? hope this isn't a dumb question I'm fairly new at this
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PR_rollers
1586 posts
Sep 16, 2008
4:44 PM
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The Molt is when the birds put on a fresh coat and get rid of the old late summer and fall is molting time but in reality the birds are molting all year but heavy molt is once a year thats the time the bird are replacing the feather that will serve them for another year. now most kit birds go through the molt with little difficulty others will have kitting problems depending on the family that you have some will roll down because its painful especially when the last three primary are in the blood stage. I usually pull my birds out from the kit until they grow them back they go back to being them self again with the rest you know good habits they had like kitting well and what not....If the whole team is having problem i rest them for a week or two increasing the protein intake to help build good feathers more oil seeds.. this the the time they need more attention and you learning this will make you a better trainer in knowing your birds when they need that extra attention if they don't wanna fly stay in the kit box when you open it don't force them out find out whats wrong if they were always coming out fine..learn your birds they will teach you ..hope this helps ..good luck ..and remember no question is a dumb one when you are learning. and remember what Sippi said above " Imagine an ingrown toenail on your foot and walking with it. Similar situation.." how would you like me to make you run like that..always feel for your birds. they are not robots...whats your name by the way.. ---------- Ralph
Last Edited by on Sep 16, 2008 4:50 PM
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Newbie 08
32 posts
Sep 20, 2008
10:07 PM
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name is Roosevelt AKA Butch that's for he advice Ralph
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