crazyrider
1 post
Aug 29, 2008
11:12 AM
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Hi hall,
does is advisable to mate full brother and full sister ?
I just would like know your suggestions.
crazyrider
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washington86
490 posts
Aug 29, 2008
11:16 AM
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It doesn't really matter. As long as they are proven to produce excellent birds then they are good to go. I've breed brother to sister, father to daughter, and son to mother, and I've got some success in it.
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W.Cha
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ezeedad
780 posts
Aug 29, 2008
11:27 AM
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Sure it's OK... In fact it is done all the time. It is common practice. You want to get the good genes in as small a circle as possible. Whole strains are made using only two or three birds.
Paul G
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Square
443 posts
Aug 29, 2008
12:28 PM
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I think its great,, I built a whole family off three brothers and one sister,,, brought it all back and have hade really good results...so good that I really dont care who mates with who because they are all really tight...
Square
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"Home of the Ghost Town Roller"
K.C.R.C
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crazyrider
2 posts
Aug 29, 2008
6:40 PM
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I appreciated your opinions .
Many thanks .
crazyrider
Last Edited by on Aug 29, 2008 7:04 PM
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cv rollers
60 posts
Aug 30, 2008
10:04 PM
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wow guys i did not no this either with guys like paul,and everybody that gives their knowledge to this site we learn so much,thanks fellas
rick
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pisto
58 posts
Aug 31, 2008
10:14 AM
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i wouldnt not if they have faults and some squabs may come out deformed.
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fhtfire
1479 posts
Aug 31, 2008
10:40 AM
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I have never had full brother and full sister matings work out..to close...I would not do it..but your birds..
rock and ROLL
Paul
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Spin City USA
81 posts
Aug 31, 2008
3:45 PM
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In order to be succussful at breeding that close you have to be able to spot the degenerate traits. If you breed the best to the best it should be all right. The faults sometimes mask themselves and are hard to spot. I have done it and sometimes get weak feather untill the first molt then you cant tell, but I make a note will not breed that pigeon no matter how good it is in the air.I would try to isolate the parent that had the trait by breeding to another sibling. The degenerate trates could be anything that detracts from the qualities that you want to perpetuate in your birds. There are also links that may associate themselves with performance. If you breed enough off the same pair you should be able to link up the the good traits and spot the undesirable ones. When they the best to the best they really mean it. It will expose all of the faults in your birds,nonkitters,rolldowns,highflyers,ect. It will let you know what you are working with.
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They gotta Spin to win.....Jay
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SpinCityRollers
151 posts
Aug 31, 2008
4:54 PM
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Jay
Thank you for pointing that out
The closest i will go is halfs brother and sis or Grand parents to grand Children not saying it wont or does'nt work. but in my breeding and flying results over the years it tend to throw birds that are all over the board. because remember if you double the good you also double the bad
And your percentage will be crazy could all good and a few generation they show.
Performance based
Only as I experience it over the years with my family of pigeons
Madmax
www.spincityrollers.com
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Spin City USA
82 posts
Aug 31, 2008
9:17 PM
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Max, I like the way you put the last part,we can learn a lot by our mistakes only as it pertains to our birds. Line breeding or inbreeding will expose the faults in the family line. By closely breeding the birds that show the traits that we want we will intensify them. If you are careful you can purge them or bury them pretty deep. There are some good articles in the reading room on the subject.
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They gotta Spin to win.....Jay
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