mario
64 posts
Aug 31, 2008
4:41 AM
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i have a pair of pigeons that im been breeding from for the last two years,they give me 12 youngters in those 2 years ,all of those youngters are 25 to 30 feets deep and more ,.....but ....3 of them where birds OUT OF CONTROL.m my going wrong to continue that line ,they are very spectacular birds and i don t compete ,there is no competition around here ,thank you ....Mario
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Tony Chavarria
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2769 posts
Aug 31, 2008
5:21 AM
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Hey Mario, while depth has its place, as for myself, I would judge my birds in this order:
1: Roll (heart-character)
2: Velocity (style-quality)
3: Depth (ability to go short or deep at will)
4: Control (has control of the roll, not controlled by it)
5: Type (proper proportion, perch presence, calmness)
Sounds like your percentages are not out of line. Just be sure your family is showing the right velocity, the ones that do and give you the depth you are looking for, are the ones to focus on in your breeding program from here on out.
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sundance
772 posts
Aug 31, 2008
5:57 AM
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I`d keep breeding them Mario. I`d probably even be thinking about which of those young were their absolute best.I`d Pick 2 of those young and bring them back in and put the best hen to the father and the best cock back to the mother. Good records of the young from there might produce a really good line of birds. You also might find most of the true quality in them is coming from the cock, or you might find it is coming from the hen. If the cock mated to his daughter doesnt produce the same quality Id take him and "their" young out of the program providing the hen x best son does produce what you want. If that is the case I`d find the next best son and put him with her and the following year or two you`ll have a loft full of cousins/half brothers/sisters, all based out of that hen.
There are no guarantees either way, and it might take a couple years to see them going the direction you want, but it certainly sounds like you got a great starting point.
I`d be thrilled with a pair producing 12 young that all spin like that. Sounds like an opportunity to produce a great strain with them to me....
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Last Edited by on Aug 31, 2008 6:12 AM
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sippi
505 posts
Aug 31, 2008
7:34 AM
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Tony and Sundance gave you good advice. Its not every day you hit on a good pair like that. I would pump them as much as possible next breeding season and then do as Sundance suggested.
sippi
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mario
67 posts
Sep 01, 2008
4:58 AM
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thanks guys ...that make s me feel better ....sometimes i think that im doing everething wrong .....Mario
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norlan hollingate
729 posts
Sep 01, 2008
2:11 PM
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mario
sounds like wat ur doing is great i find some of my best pairs produce good n sometimes not so good im happy with about 50%ur showing about75%just keep doing wat ur doing if ur happy thats the main thing i would float a lot of eggs off this p/r n do like the other lads have posted good luck
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Square
446 posts
Sep 02, 2008
9:45 AM
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Wow those are some really good numbers Mario.. I would be really happy with that... just think most people that compete breed about 5 kits.. not all but some then they are ably to build a a team outta that to represent their family of rollers... cant really say what the percentage is but if they had 30% scussess they could put up a decent kit outta 100 bird's bred.. I only keep around 40 flyer's and breed about 70 or so a year... so with 75% you could be wooping some behind... good luck.. with whatever you do...
Square..
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mario
70 posts
Sep 03, 2008
6:39 AM
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Thanks boys i appreciate ,........Mario
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