TheGame
208 posts
Sep 21, 2008
8:51 PM
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What time of the year do you start breeding and why?
How do you select who breeds with who?
I have birds that are under a year old could I breed them? Or would you suggest letting them get older first?
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Spin City USA
92 posts
Sep 21, 2008
10:29 PM
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I usually put my birds together as soon as I can, early Feb. I put a light in the cage until the days start to get longer. If you have young birds dont be in a hurry to breed them, make them prove themselves in the air, make each bird give you a reason to stock it,even then it may not stay in the stock loft. If you really want to start breeding talk to some of the flyers who have the kind of birds that you like in the air and try to get some proven pairs. If you are able to get some leave them mated the way they came to you. After you see what those babies do you can move them around, try different mateings if they cant reproduce themselves or better I put them back in the kit cage. I like to breed deep pigeons,50+ft. It is really hard because when they get in that range the wing switchers show up,the quality starts to fall off. I have to be very selective as to what I breed from. It also takes a long time to put together a good kit of really deep spinners. Breeding deep does produce it's share of roll downs but I never, never breed from them and they usually eleminate themselves from the gene pool. Take your time and your best assets are the committed flyers in your area.
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They gotta Spin to win.....Jay
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kopetsa
1590 posts
Sep 21, 2008
11:38 PM
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right now my last round is starting to hatch as I type.. After they are done I will put them back together on about December 10th.. :)
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Andrew
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Square
487 posts
Sep 22, 2008
11:38 AM
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Likewise for me I am breeding "Stock pigeons"...Thease 12 will never see the air,,, their brothers and sisters are the proof... and I also have quite abit of time invested into the family and I know what they do... I had given and loned out to many this year and had the need to back up my family this fall... after this round they will be broken up until Thanx Giving.. that is the day I put my pairs back togeather... I do this because I am not as fourtunate as most of the comp guys in my ability to hold on to a few kits... it just becomes to much in the summer... So now I have one team of 20 hens and one team of 12 cocks... I will hold thease birds as long as I can as I havent really been able to compete with a holdover kit,,, its always half old birds and young birds... I look at it like this you can have five gallons of ornge juce or you can have two quarts of consentrate that makes ten gallons... Quality not Quanity,,,
Square...
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"Home of the Ghost Town Roller"
K.C.R.C
Last Edited by on Sep 22, 2008 1:05 PM
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sippi
561 posts
Sep 22, 2008
7:51 PM
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I put my birds together November first. I want to band birds in December. I usually give all my cocks a number 1-10 and the hens the same. I some times pair like numbers and sometimes I mix and match to suit myself. Last year I paired 1-6,2-5,3-4 just because, switching them to different mates. This year I will probably do the same thing except I am breeding from five pairs instead of three.
sippi
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TheGame
210 posts
Sep 23, 2008
7:44 PM
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Why does everyone breed at different times of the winter?? Is there a reason for this?
My birds are under a year old... would you suggest breeding them or no?
As far as pairing goes how do you do it? Do you look at the birds flying or how they look on the ground and then match em up with a mate?
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PR_rollers
1644 posts
Sep 23, 2008
10:55 PM
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I try and answer this the best i can.
Why does everyone breed at different times of the winter?? Is there a reason for this?
some need birds to make up for a comp coming up maybe cause BOP cut down on their birds they are many reason why.
My birds are under a year old... would you suggest breeding them or no?
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Folks do it .I prefer to wait a year or two.after molt .to
see if they still stable some birds after a year roll down or don't kit you be surprise.
As far as pairing goes how do you do it? Do you look at the birds flying or how they look on the ground and then match em up with a mate?
I study them in the air first i keep copy's of how they doing for the first year or two i decide who i will use.what were their faults did they have kitting problems did they roll straight and true with quality. come to a stop and right back into the kit,did they roll and instead of shooting back went on a shopping spree thats what i call it when they go off flying on their own.. frequency rate .speed ,depth. rolling working from the front and middle ,which one likes to work as a team not just rolling all the time like individual you know these are things I'm writing down and keeping records of then i look for how they are on the ground were they trouble birds that had to be retrain did they had to be kick out the kit box to fly for being lazy or chase off the top of the kit box all the time. who was a fast learner .how active they were on the perches who was very alert or sitting down slump and showing no interest. how do they feel in the hand compact well balance a short keel the expression of the eyes that intelligent look .were they early developers or late developer. you want to get as much information as possible to help you decide who will go into the breeding pen they will be your breeders but not your stock birds your stock birds will be birds that reproduce the goods for you,.your breeders could be good or great birds but if they don't produce like them or better what good are they in the breeding loft kick them back into the air.. I hope this helps out a little bit..
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Ralph
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WaTtS UpP
1130 posts
Sep 23, 2008
10:56 PM
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what up ralph hows it going whats up with birds
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Watts uppp homeboy
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PR_rollers
1645 posts
Sep 23, 2008
11:02 PM
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Hey Nickyboy what you been up to..the birds are getting ready for lock up the falcons hit hard in Oct here through Feb.and they left me with 16 birds to choose for this breeding season and looks like only 2 pairs that really have the goods are going into breeding.. how you coming along.they hitting on you yet..
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Ralph
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Windjammer Loft
412 posts
Sep 28, 2008
2:16 PM
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TheGame...to answer some of your questions...First of all, we all live in different regions of the country. So the climates are very different. You don't want to take the chance of loosing babies with sub-zero temps. I live in Ohio and put my birds together in early to mid March. I stop breeding in September. This way I can still give the late hatches some air time before the snow flies.
With some of my prisoners(birds that I aquired from other flyers that I don't want to loose that have not been flown)I just let them free loft breed the first season. And some I put together from their past youngsters preformance. I try and put birds together from the air also.
As for your birds,I would not put them together so soon. Fly them out,see which ones suit your likes and go from thier. You may not have any worth breeding.
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Fly High and Roll On
Paul
Last Edited by on Sep 28, 2008 2:22 PM
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TheGame
218 posts
Sep 29, 2008
9:11 AM
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I live in New York... any ideas to when to start breeding. I will probably not breed the young birds but maybe get me some proven breeding pairs...
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pat66
181 posts
Sep 29, 2008
9:54 AM
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PENNSYLVANIA--VALENTINES DAY!!!!!Best time to start breeding!!!
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Pat
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PR_rollers
1672 posts
Sep 29, 2008
10:01 AM
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I live in New York City, 36 yrs I wouldn't breed in the winter they can get pretty colddddddddddd//I never had a loft with heaters or a loft with ventilation all the kids in the neighborhood didn't neither and those birds can take the cold and the heat I tell you..but babies i don't play with them in winter with out heaters in the loft..or its too cold for them to learn to fly too.
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Ralph
Last Edited by on Feb 23, 2010 12:27 PM
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Square
509 posts
Sep 29, 2008
11:12 AM
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I start early because I want the yearlings to start rolling by the late spring.. This is because I have a limited number of holdoverbirds,,, as the yeards go on I plan to have more holdovers. This will only be my third year in comp,so Im still kinda new,,, also when ever you do decide to breed make sure the birds are broken up for acouple of months at least.. The better you hide them from one another the more eager the will be for eachother. This is the best way to gett alot of birds the same age at the same time... Good luck...
Square..
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"Home of the Ghost Town Roller"
K.C.R.C
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Newbie 08
38 posts
Sep 29, 2008
4:28 PM
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I have a Black self pair I purchased from a feed store back in July. I have flown the cock and the hen. The hen has proven to be a really nice roller depth of at least 20ft and the volocity in her spin is nice. The Cock is another story he maybe rolls like 3 times not very deep or tight. I have another Cock that rolls more in her league about 20ft tight spin with the volocity. I want to break up the original pair and put this other cock on her. Do I have to seperate the orginal cock from the loft or can I just bput her and the Cock I want to put on her in a breeder cage? Will the original cock continue to go at her??
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sippi
573 posts
Sep 29, 2008
5:49 PM
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If you have the original cock in with the pair she will not mate with new cock. You need to get the original cock out of the picture.
sippi
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Flipmode
228 posts
Sep 29, 2008
10:11 PM
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Valentine's Day is right Pat66! Thats when the love is in the air and the birds seem to really feel it! Plus the BOP's aren't the bad on the young in April.
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Newbie 08
39 posts
Sep 30, 2008
9:55 AM
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Thanks Sippi I kinda thought so well he's got to go LOL
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Windjammer Loft
414 posts
Oct 03, 2008
6:01 PM
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The Game.........Living in New York,I wouldn't pair up your birds any sooner then March.
Newbie.......Try and stick to the thread at hand. Your question would have made another thread.
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Fly High and Roll On
Paul
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donnie james
8 posts
Oct 04, 2008
8:55 PM
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i breeding the week of thanksgiving so i can get a early jump on the comp.
breeding from the year before
i would wait until they get older first and fly them out first...................donny james
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