Edgar
416 posts
Sep 30, 2008
9:42 AM
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Hows it going fellas I have a question for all of you guys who are married how many of you guys would give up raising birds for your womans just because she ask you to and please be honest about it. I ask this question because I hear a lot of guys who get out of birds because of there wifes.
Maybe I am wrong guys but to me its sad to hear that a woman kept a grown ass man from raising birds. I say this because I went through this crap before. I never got rid of my birds for anybody but my wife whom I love ask me the big question (either the birds go or i go) there was nothing to think about I was about to lose my wife over some birds but wait these birds are keeping me out of trouble I am not out in the streets anymore dont really drink,smoke pot or snore coke im not running from the law so I had to wonder why she would ask me that if she knew how much these birds mean to me why. So I did what any grown man would of done. I walked up to my wife whom I really love and sed ( okay you win again ) gave her a kiss and sed ( You take care of your self okay ) she couldn't believe I had chosen my birds and I couldn't believe she would ever ask me that. To this day I still have birds and probably always will my wife well lets just say she's going to boons to buy me some feed for my birds 14percent no corn please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Amezquita's Loft"
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155
825 posts
Sep 30, 2008
9:57 AM
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First of all Edger, I take my hat off for you cause many guys in this hobby would do such a thing like you did. Most relationships on the womens part they get so jelouis of us being with the birds most of time or hanging out with roller guys or even talking to roller guys women take to the heart about us spending more time with our hobby then with them but like you say they have to relize that were not out causeing trouble our doing things were not suppose to be doing. I speak that for myself too. My birds keep me on a nice even mood and relax me. A lot of guys when they go through this situation get bent out of shape and don't know what to do so most of the guys do get reed of there birds from what ive seen and heared it is sad to see a grown ass man get reed of his birds....I'm talking for myself but not everyone has the same opion as I do. But I honestly respect what you wrote about your situation.
Jose
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mario
95 posts
Sep 30, 2008
10:02 AM
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that s very good ....me too i need a hobby i,don t drink ,no drugs ,so for the little that cost ,i m never gonna give up ,plus it s a hobby that it s almost just man ,so they don t have to worry ,better than going to the strip bar ....Mario
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fhtfire
1558 posts
Sep 30, 2008
10:13 AM
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Hey,
I lost my wife and the birds were part of the problem too...there were other problems...but the bird ALWAYS came up...as well as my adrenaline filled life style....Basically I say it like this...I am a firefighter and an adrenaline junky...I have always played contact sports, drag raced..my teenage years were like American Graffiti right down to the small town..football in my town was like Friday night lights...my parents had the sign in front of there house that #55 was an Esparto Spartan Safety...lol...but the birds are the bring me down from my high and stress relief.
I told her I see a lot of bad things at the F.D.....bad car crashes, whole families killed, kids killed, CPR call, buddies getting hurt....close calls where I almost lost my life...then to top it off..I am a Captain...so now I am responsible for my crew too..because my decisions that have to be made in a split second could put my crews in danger.....so when I have rough shifts ect...I open the door and watch my birds fly through the sky with grace and piece....it makes me forget about the bad and think of how lucky I am.....these birds are magic.....and to be honest...I will NEVER get rid of my birds.....and what is funny..is that I have not changed a thing and my girlfriend has no problem with it.....wierd aint it...anyway....
Even as a youth....I would come home from practice and sit and watch my birds for hours..all the stress of being the go to guy in sports and school etc.....would be wisked away as I watched my feathered friends...my mom even told my ex...the happiest she had ever seen me is when I was with my pigeons....of course not to many people in school knew about them....I had an image to keep up...lol
rock and ROLL
Paul
Last Edited by on Sep 30, 2008 10:14 AM
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birdman
650 posts
Sep 30, 2008
10:21 AM
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If she ever brings it up again just take her shopping for a cute little dog. She'll forget about you and the birds in no time. LOL
Russ
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Otis
166 posts
Sep 30, 2008
10:23 AM
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Edgar, A wise man once said for all you young guys out there...."Try to find a woman that has some animal husbandry or care in her background somewhere". This type understands the daily needs and chores associated with caring for animals and is more than likely to join you and/or not complain. I commend you for dealing with the aggravation that can accompany the voice begging and pleading for you to come inside. What you eventually do is condition them that this is an essential part of your peace and happiness and that she will have to tolerate what she may think she is missing. In the end you will have a partner like you have, that will help go pick up the grain, even explain the rollers as good as you to strangers or like some fortunate fanciers, assist in cleaning, feeding and watering the birds, just to please you! Think of the many things you do to please her! A lot of young women fail to understand that a man must be a man especially when it comes to his happines that does no harm to his family. Everything in moderation and balance of family and the birds are the key! Otis
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Tony Chavarria
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2833 posts
Sep 30, 2008
10:26 AM
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Hey Paul, I have even more respect for you! YOU GO!
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Alohazona
456 posts
Sep 30, 2008
10:28 AM
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Edgar.I n the mid 90,s I was really into martial arts,training hard 4 to 5 days a week.I was with my JKD buds all the time.When I wasn't training I was thinking about it.In the late 80'S,early 90's I was really into woodworking always doing it, always thinking about it,that was a little more accepted because it made money.I loved doing these things but was progressively told it wasn't condusive to a growing family.So these things took more of a back seat,both of these things I excelled in.
As I got into the pigeon hobby it started with the kids and myself,hitting the lawn shows,winning ribbons,obtaining birds,getting knee deep into it.Another bird!Yep!,my central Phoenix home was starting to look like a bird farm.
Returning back home to Hawaii,I brought my best Racing pigeons and rollers.I was struck with a liver disease shortly after returning back,which knocked me down for 3 months.The birds were a comfort to me.When I started getting my strength back,I was told by my wife,"why don't you get rid of those birds","why",because you spend more money and time on them then me.I didn't agree and pointed out the man things we comprimised on and had taken a backseat.To make a long story short,there were many things she did not support ,so we split up and eventually divorced.
Was it the birds that split us up,no way,there were other issues.
Edgar, as you go through life you do have to make comprises with your life constantly.When you get alittle older and your wife is trying to put blinders on you to the point of squashing a simple man's dream,you make your decision from their.I have been raising my teenage kids on my own ever since,and I think we are better for it.....Aloha,Todd
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pat66
184 posts
Sep 30, 2008
10:30 AM
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My wife LOVES my birds,if I sell one she gets p.o. so I do not even tell her about my culls,
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Pat
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gabe454
1264 posts
Sep 30, 2008
11:07 AM
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Your crazy edgar!!!!LOL
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454
TRIPLE "G" LOFT
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chewy
191 posts
Sep 30, 2008
3:40 PM
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well first of all..sorry to those who have gone through this road..but it seems ur rite about it...many ladies always have issues about it because of jealousy, for us to spent more times with the birds than them..
for myself i always hear it also, but am not marry yet...but with bird issues with my lady..man its hard..i always tell her i will never get rid of birds..she asked me many times to get rid of my birds i still disagree with her..if she wants to leave me...door always open..but my thought is that if she really love u it dont matter what u do or what u are...she will always be with u...just like mine lol..she got to keep it up...lol..like i keep up with her...that's how its done...
chewy..
just my thoughts..
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Electric-man
2060 posts
Sep 30, 2008
4:09 PM
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Don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out, dear!
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Val
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az-je
22 posts
Sep 30, 2008
4:30 PM
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Hey guys,
I have to agree with some of what Otis said. When I was a little girl, my Dad asked once if I had to "rescue" everything and without hesitation I said "Yes". I have to stay away from the Humane Society and Adopt a Pet places.
I love Rollers and can't imagine anyone asking someone else to give up a hobby like this. The chores and expense are minimal even if we complain about the high cost of feed or cleaning lofts during the molt. The fellowship is awesome. It's peaceful and relaxing to turn a kit out in the morning or at the end of a work day. The only thing I can't take part in is the culling. It's hard for me to even throw eggs away.
My point of view for what it's worth anyway and I say "Right On" to all of the Roller people for whatever reason that you keep and fly Rollers.
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SSLOFTS
137 posts
Sep 30, 2008
6:36 PM
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"Shut up and grab me another beer" would probably work too.
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bigwilly
622 posts
Sep 30, 2008
6:51 PM
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Hey Guys. If your woman wants U to get rid of your birds, in my oppinion she is a straight hater. Why would anyone suggest that you quit something that u love doing. Lets keep in mind that some people really hate to c other people happy. Again just like Scott says this is just my oppinion
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BIG WILLY
TOPP FLIGHT/NCRC
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KiddenAround
90 posts
Sep 30, 2008
7:55 PM
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ROFL, SSLofts!!
Words of wisdom, Otis! (re: moderation -- the key to success in most situations)
I raise, train and sell horses for a living . . . worked for a law firm for years but left the corporate world to be with animals. I've been fortunate to make my living doing what I love for about 15 years now.
My ex boyfriend knew this when he met me, went along with it for a couple of years, but gradually started putting pressure on me to work for him and get rid of the horses. That was a deal breaker, for me.
Any woman should be grateful that her man has a passion for pigeons, instead of booze, bars or strippers!
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-- Laura
Professional Thrill Seeker
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katyroller
287 posts
Sep 30, 2008
8:00 PM
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Luckily, I have never been in that position nor do I see myself in the future. I agree with most of you guys but I can also agree with some of the wives. I have seen first hand how some guys get carried away with the birds and their priorities get out of whack. Guys with kids that make every fly and claim that they would never miss one. I have 2 teenage sons and when they were younger I ALWAYS had something to do with/for them, especially their sports. Guys that work all week and spend Sat. and Sun. chasing birds. I've been married 26 years and know that if you work all week the wife has SOMETHING for you to do on Sat. or Sun.. Houses where the lofts were better kept than the house. I try to combine my bird time with my family time. A morning cup of coffee on the patio with the wife while you fly a kit is a great way to start the day. :)
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KiddenAround
92 posts
Sep 30, 2008
8:05 PM
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Hey, Katyroller -- you're speaking fluent "moderation"!
Your family is fortunate for your thoughtfulness.
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-- Laura
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Indy
13 posts
Sep 30, 2008
8:06 PM
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I will not say that I would never give up my hobbies for a woman because there are some things that might come up where I might do it but to quit my hobbies just because she ask me to I do not think so. My ex-wife once told me that if we had children that they would not have stupid hobbies like raising rabbits or chickens. I told her I was showing rabbits long before I met her and planned to keep them so she might as well get used to them. Like I said she is my ex-wife. I really do not think that the rabbits had a lot to do with it she was just someone who was always changing her interest. She liked the rabbits at first but then got tired of them and thouht I should just move on to something else.
Now I am more careful when I get into a relationship. Earlier this spring ran into a lady at our local animal auction and at first could not place her but knew that I had met her somewhere before then it hit me that it was at our local pigeon show. I ask her about it and sure enough that was where we had met. She shows pigeons, shows and hunts bird dogs, and helps with her counties dog obediance and poultry and pigeon shows. We met at the auction and would talk for hours about Pigeons, Dogs, Chickens and everything else we just hit it off really well and became good friends but she was not interested in any other type of relationship. I thought I might have found a real jewl there but it did not work out. Now I have started talking to an old friend who I met when we were showing rabbits and cattle back in 4-H. We got started talking when she ask me about some 4-H rabbits for her daughter this spring and we have spent some time together at the county fair, state fair, and another rabbit show plus phone calls and I stop in to see her at the conveience store where she works from time to time. I am not sure if we will ever actually date but at least I knowt that she understands about raising animals. I would not say that if I find someone that she has to share my interest in my hobbies but she at least would have to understand that I am going to have them.
JohnL
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city-side-lofts
255 posts
Sep 30, 2008
8:39 PM
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whats funny about me and my girl is my girl raises show birds and i raise peforming birds and also some show breeds and i beat her in shows and she likes my birds so i gave her a few pairs
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The man in black
Bling-Bling-Benny-Boy
city-side-lofts.piczo.com
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Electric-man
2062 posts
Sep 30, 2008
8:42 PM
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My wife works nights, so we're like two ships that pass in the night. I feel comfortable in saying that I definatly do the majority of the house work, taking care of the kids(teenagers), paying the bills, and taking care of the yard. She knows it and respects what I do. She will never complain about my birds, or the few minutes of free time I get a day when I choose to spend them outside with them. She knows that if she cant find me, that all she has to do is open the back door and holler my name!
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Val
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fhtfire
1565 posts
Sep 30, 2008
8:49 PM
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Laura,
Booze and Bars I can agree with but the occasional stripper is ok...LOL....kidding
rock and ROLL
Paul
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PR_rollers
1680 posts
Sep 30, 2008
9:21 PM
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My wife would never ask me a thing like that she knows where I came from as a kid growing up in the South Bronx .she knows this is therapy for me to be with the birds and she don't like birds or animals period. this is the first time she sat and watch a kit fly with me and I told her it made my day.I was sick the other day she said tell me I will feed them what should I do and I said its ok you have to spent time with me and you see how I do it who gets what and how much.she know what the birds and dogs mean to me but I always show her she means more to me she is my world and those birds are a part of our world. her aunt came over the other day and said a comment like your husband is always with those birds and she said I know and I love to look out the kitchen window when I'm cooking and see him with his birds because at least I know where he is and what he is doing and to be with another women or in the street getting into trouble I would rather have him there with his pigeons.the next week she finds out her aunt husband was in a bar with another women ...and I said to my wife maybe she ought to buy her man some birds ....
But I do make sure I balance my life with her and the animals ,keep the land clean you know grass cut and what not.
Do chores to help her out is not just I'm the man you do what I say .you have to balance your life out know what are her needs too..but to answer your question if she ask me to choose between the birds and her.I would say you know where the door is >>>that way baby don't let it hit your back side on the way out..I just clean it ;;..lol.Hasta la vista babyyyyyy..
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Ralph
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George R.
1031 posts
Sep 30, 2008
9:28 PM
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My Family Comes First NUMERO Uno !!
and yes that Includes my Wife......
The Novice
George
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155
826 posts
Sep 30, 2008
9:43 PM
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MY FAMILY COME FIRST TOO BUT THEY ALSO KNEW ME HOW I WAS BACK THEN IF ONLY YOU KNEW... BUT ANYWAY... BUT THEY ALSO
KNOW MY BIRDS KEEP ME FROM DOING SOME BAD SHIT.. SO WHY ARE
THEY GOING TO TRY AND (Moderated) WITH ME AND MY BIRDS TELL ME..MY KIDS LOVE MY BIRDS AND MY GIRL ALSO.....
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EVILLOFT'S
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cv rollers
71 posts
Sep 30, 2008
11:36 PM
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FOR ME TIME MANAGEMENT; WIFE,KIDS,BIRDS,DOGS,YARD........
IT ALSO HELPS MY DAUGHTERS LOVE MY BIRDS,YOUNGEST DAUGHTER IS STARTING HER OWN KIT OF ROLLERS.......PS.MY WIFE JUST BOUGHT ME THREE BREEDING PAIRS ........
RICK
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KiddenAround
93 posts
Oct 01, 2008
7:20 AM
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Yeah, you guys are a great group.
I wish the wives (or husbands) who are complaining could soften their approach about it, and then you guys would probably do anything for them!
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-- Laura
Professional Thrill Seeker
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KiddenAround
94 posts
Oct 01, 2008
7:23 AM
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Paul, you bad boy . . . as much free stuff as there is out there, surely you ain't throwing money down the g-strings!
I hope from now on, every single green bill that you put in a girl's string, you imagine how many rollers you could have bought with that $$! lol
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-- Laura
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az-je
23 posts
Oct 01, 2008
9:32 AM
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I've always been an outdoors type girl, lived in the country and had dogs, cats, chickens, goats, rabbits, horses, etc from a very young age. Was a 4-H Leader for many years when my kids were growing up and loved every minute. The dishes, dusting, laundry, etc had to wait as there fish to catch, sunsets to watch, stars to count, snowmen to build, nature hikes, wildflowers to pick and lots of other things like that to do. Little moments in life that mean so much can't be put on hold. My 2nd husband introduced me to Rollers about 15 years ago. They just fit with who I am and what I like. I find plenty of time for the birds, housework, my job and him. Mostly because we do the work together... even working opposite shifts. I can't imagine anyone asking a "loved one" to give up his/her birds. Raising and flying Rollers is a far cry from the many other "bad" things a person could be doing with their time and money.
J.
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Edgar
418 posts
Oct 01, 2008
3:51 PM
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Dont mean no disrespect kiddenaround and Az-je but dam I wish I had a woman like you two who needs heaven with a woman who loves birds just like you.Edgar
"Amezzquita's Loft"
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KiddenAround
96 posts
Oct 02, 2008
8:05 AM
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Hey, Edgar -- how could anyone construe that as disrespect?
I think there are lots of animal lovers out there, but sometimes people (men AND women) are insecure about how they stand with their mates, and feel that they have to compete, when they shouldn't feel that way. If you have an insecure mate, you have to work harder to make them more secure, which sometimes can be a pain, right? :)
Shoot, my mother used to be jealous of the time I spent with the horses. It's sure not just pigeons!
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-- Laura
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J_Star
1762 posts
Oct 02, 2008
10:57 AM
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When a spouse asks to get red of the birds, it is a symptom to a lurking problem that is being fostered for a long time. Look for the problem(s) and correct them. Trying to correct symptoms will get you nowhere but the dog house. It is a simple as that.
Jay
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Edgar
426 posts
Oct 02, 2008
11:52 AM
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Laura you are right again its hard living like that im out back with the birds so peaceful go in side the house and BAM whole new shit breaks lose but the important thing is that she knows already about asking those dum ass questions.Edgar
"Amezquita's Loft"
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belle
306 posts
Oct 02, 2008
3:00 PM
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My girl loves my birds, she is always in my loft looking at the babys and feedind them, but she love all pets. I found a old guy down the road that was getting rid of his racers so I got them for her,she loves them. She would not make me get rid of my birds because she knows I love them and they make me happy. As long as I don't spend all my time in the loft shes happy too. Hope you can work it out.
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Justin
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gabe454
1270 posts
Oct 02, 2008
8:28 PM
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No seas lloron edgar!
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454
TRIPLE "G" LOFT
L.P.R.C
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KiddenAround
99 posts
Oct 03, 2008
12:04 PM
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Es okay, Edgar. Yo entiende.
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gabe454
1271 posts
Oct 03, 2008
12:40 PM
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hey laura your spanish is not so good!LOL
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454
TRIPLE "G" LOFT
L.P.R.C
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gabe454
1272 posts
Oct 03, 2008
3:07 PM
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Wow PR thanks!!!LOL
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454
TRIPLE "G" LOFT
L.P.R.C
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KiddenAround
100 posts
Oct 03, 2008
7:49 PM
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Thanks, Gabe -- but I get an A for effort, right?
Mi Engles esta mas buena que'll mi Espanol!
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Edgar
427 posts
Oct 03, 2008
8:14 PM
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Dont worry kiddenaround 454 dont know spanish either and hes MEXICAN okay go figure. Edgar
"Amezquita's Loft"
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gabe454
1274 posts
Oct 03, 2008
8:16 PM
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LOL laura!
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454
TRIPLE "G" LOFT
L.P.R.C
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PR_rollers
1694 posts
Oct 03, 2008
8:18 PM
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Edgar you think thats bad I don't know Spanish neither and I'm New York Rican...lol..laura knows more than me from what I see..Gabe que paso que paso lol..
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Ralph
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smoke747
1297 posts
Oct 06, 2008
7:21 PM
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I wouldn't give them up but I'LL make some changes in the amount of time I spend in the loft.
smoke747
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Keith London
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