kopetsa
1728 posts
Oct 10, 2008
3:08 PM
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I obviously know what it looks like because I have a whole tonne of them but where has this originated from in the Birmingham roller? How long has it been around for? What color is it, dilute red? How do people breed for it if they don't have any? Is it some kind of almond tone?
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Thanks,
Andrew
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WaTtS UpP
1140 posts
Oct 10, 2008
4:31 PM
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tony you should band kopetsa for his stupid topics and ignorance.............
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Watts uppp homeboy
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Norm_Knox
203 posts
Oct 10, 2008
4:37 PM
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We are all here to learn, so there is no stupid questions!!!! Can you honestly tell me that you dont learn sometin new every time u watch or fly your birds ??? Just my opinion ....
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N/A Loft
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WaTtS UpP
1143 posts
Oct 10, 2008
4:39 PM
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yeah i learn but i dont stick on one damn birds color ... watch your birds look at how they fly perform and eat..... its always color this color that put them up impress us
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Watts uppp homeboy
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WaTtS UpP
1144 posts
Oct 10, 2008
4:43 PM
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(Moderated)............... put up
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Watts uppp homeboy
Last Edited by on Oct 10, 2008 5:54 PM
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kopetsa
1736 posts
Oct 10, 2008
4:43 PM
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My rollers I can do whatever the hell I want! >:
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Andrew
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WaTtS UpP
1146 posts
Oct 10, 2008
4:44 PM
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put them up
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Watts uppp homeboy
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WaTtS UpP
1155 posts
Oct 10, 2008
5:05 PM
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(Moderated)
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Watts uppp homeboy
Last Edited by on Oct 10, 2008 5:55 PM
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Indy
18 posts
Oct 10, 2008
5:30 PM
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Andrew
Yellow is a dilute variation of red. Yellow or Cream Bar is a dilute Red Bar, Yellow Check a dilute Red Check and Yellow Self is a dilute Recessive Red. Recessive Red is adifferent gene than Red Bar and Red Check but the dilutes of both are yellow. Almond is a seperate gene. I am not sure when or where it started in the rollers.
JohnL
Last Edited by on Oct 10, 2008 5:37 PM
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jnyce
290 posts
Oct 10, 2008
5:42 PM
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kopetsa ignorance is bliss never be afraid to ask a question that u dont have the answers to im sure years ago all the experts one inparticular ask there mentor the same stupit or ignorant question how else would some one gain knowledge of something they dont know. theres not one person one here that knows everything so ask your question as i will when ever i have a stupit or ignorant question!!!!! i thought this site was to share and learn beside it just shows what kind of person answer or respond to a " stupit or ignorant question "
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jerry t
Last Edited by on Oct 11, 2008 4:36 AM
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Santandercol
3138 posts
Oct 10, 2008
8:05 PM
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Chill out watts!Don't be such a -hit disturber like me!!!You guys should both go sit in the corner!!!
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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Santandercol
3139 posts
Oct 10, 2008
8:07 PM
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Drew,
I betcha yellow came from the Oriental Rollers.I have 3 different variations of yellows(cream) in my ORs
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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fresnobirdman
115 posts
Oct 10, 2008
10:46 PM
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is there any possible way to get yellows without a yellow parent?
cause i been trying to find a yellow that can roll at least 10 foot, all i find is the ones that can 'flip'
~~Fresnobirdman~~
Last Edited by on Oct 10, 2008 10:47 PM
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kopetsa
1749 posts
Oct 10, 2008
11:10 PM
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Mine are 20-30 footer.. I have a few that will only do 10-15 feet.. Kel. but where did yellow in Orientals come from?
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Andrew
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pat66
191 posts
Oct 11, 2008
3:43 AM
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The only stupid question is one not asked!
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Pat
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Santandercol
3142 posts
Oct 11, 2008
6:55 AM
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Drew,
You'd better ask the Kurds in Turkey or Iraq that question.Orientals have been found pictured on ancient pottery dated 1300 years before Jesus Christ,so who knows?
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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fresnobirdman
118 posts
Oct 11, 2008
10:09 AM
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indy, i am lookin for any kinda of yellow that can roll.
what are all the combos that i can make to get yellow?
~~Fresnobirdman~~
Last Edited by on Oct 11, 2008 10:10 AM
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George R.
1062 posts
Oct 11, 2008
1:10 PM
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fresno I got a yellow thats doing 20 ft
2008 young Cock
Last Edited by on Oct 11, 2008 1:23 PM
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fresnobirdman
120 posts
Oct 11, 2008
6:02 PM
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what color does the dun have to be?
can anyone post a pix of a pair that have produced yellows that are not yellow parents?
~~Fresnobirdman~~
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Santandercol
3145 posts
Oct 11, 2008
6:55 PM
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They can sure have colours hidden in their genes you wouldn't think.I have a pair of Orientals,the cock is black and the hen a dark dun and the first round of young I got off them were both yellows.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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CSRA
1677 posts
Oct 11, 2008
6:58 PM
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thats a pretty bird
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kopetsa
1750 posts
Oct 11, 2008
7:00 PM
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That's pretty cool kel. Awesome looking bird George!
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Andrew
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JBow
18 posts
Oct 12, 2008
10:02 AM
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great looking bird George. I paired up a light almond cock to a dark rec red self hen. I got one yellow self,one yellow w/f mixed tail, one yellow w/f mixed tail beard, the rest were almonds. I raised six out of that pair. Just fooling around having fun with them. Turns out so far 4 of the 6 are rolling pretty nice. Jim Bowen Kansas
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TT
20 posts
Oct 12, 2008
10:10 AM
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Nice looking bird!
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Tony.
Calgary, AB
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Electric-man
2084 posts
Oct 12, 2008
3:50 PM
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Jim, that one yellow you had was an absolute blurrrr! I would guess it was rolling 40'straight down and tight. I would say 40' would be a very conservative number also. Great bird! I will never forget seeing your kits fly! Norm had some nice birds also! Please tell your wives Thanks for the food and hospitality!
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Val
Last Edited by on Oct 12, 2008 3:53 PM
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ANEWKITT
31 posts
Oct 12, 2008
4:26 PM
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I had a yellow hen w/f that was a 100 footer. She was amazing.
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Indy
23 posts
Oct 13, 2008
7:29 PM
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Fresno
Because yellow is recessive to red and cock birds can carrie it and not show it any cock bird out if yellows, dunns or silvers could carrie the ressive dilute gene there are lots of combinations that can produce it you need a red gene and a dilute gene to produce yellows.
JohnL
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fresnobirdman
134 posts
Oct 13, 2008
7:45 PM
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when you guys say dun can a blue dun work?
or a light light brown?
~~Fresnobirdman~~
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fresnobirdman
135 posts
Oct 13, 2008
7:54 PM
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but if you have a kit full of un pretty colors you wont want to look at them...
~~Fresnobirdman~~
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ErnDog
16 posts
Oct 13, 2008
8:03 PM
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i have flew blacks,checks and other colors you might think are "un preety"and still amazed everyone who saw them fly.------ERNDOG.
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Santandercol
3171 posts
Oct 13, 2008
8:08 PM
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So right emdog,but there will always be those that like coloured birds in their flock.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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Indy
24 posts
Oct 13, 2008
8:34 PM
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I have not tried to breed anything for color. I am just trying to learn enough about color genitics to know what I have in my loft when it shows up and where it came from. As far as color description it seems so many people have different names for the same colors for example when I say silver I am refering to the dilute blue bar that actually looks like a dun bar. To me Dun bar makes more since but most pigeon breeds and most pigeon genetic books refer to them as Silvers yet if they are checked or solid they are refered to as Dunns. If I have a faverite color it would probabley be the self blacks to look at in the loft or black or red baldheads to watch fly. Right now I have several colors in my loft because I take them as they come until I get the roll that I want.
JohnL
JohnL
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pisto
121 posts
Oct 13, 2008
9:20 PM
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yeah jonny get them as they come until the one thats perfect for you comes along.i agree.
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fresnobirdman
136 posts
Oct 13, 2008
9:29 PM
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'get them as they go';;
ahha
how can you get them as you go wen your entire kit is black, black, black...
~~Fresnobirdman~~
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kopetsa
1784 posts
Oct 14, 2008
6:42 AM
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"Right now I have several colors in my loft because I take them as they come until I get the roll that I want."
Right on Johnny!
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Andrew
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Indy
28 posts
Oct 14, 2008
8:18 PM
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Fresno
If you want to add color to your loft you should be able to find quality rollers in several colors just make sure that you are getting good quality rollers and not just pretty colored birds.
JohnL
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bigwilly
692 posts
Oct 14, 2008
9:12 PM
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I love yellows,creams. I never really see them on the fly's. I wonder why? I don't have any. Anyone you know fly's yellows in there A Team?
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BIG WILLY
TOPP FLIGHT/NCRC
Last Edited by on Oct 14, 2008 9:13 PM
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kopetsa
1794 posts
Oct 14, 2008
10:13 PM
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They used to be, but now my Kelly Waugh (Santandercol) birds may take over.. :)
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Andrew
Last Edited by on Oct 14, 2008 10:14 PM
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