silver tail
536 posts
Oct 19, 2008
11:19 PM
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Kevin McCray flew the best kit I ever seen.
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gotspin7
1965 posts
Oct 20, 2008
4:33 AM
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I saw a great scoring kit at Steve Smith's, Robert Parker's and Randy Gibson's.
Keith, you have busy with them kits!...lol
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Sal Ortiz
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gotspin7
1966 posts
Oct 20, 2008
4:33 AM
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I saw a great scoring kit at Steve Smith's, Robert Parker's and Randy Gibson's.
Keith, you have busy with them kits!...lol
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Sal Ortiz
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gotspin7
1967 posts
Oct 20, 2008
4:34 AM
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Big congrats on your fly Abel!
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Sal Ortiz
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Scott
1196 posts
Oct 20, 2008
5:54 AM
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You guys are lucky to have seen such kits, I have never even seen a true 600 point kit unless timing of the breaks didn't matter and anything and everything was scored regardless of how they did it, meaning the good bad and ugly, when only the good should be scored in legit breaks.
These silly scores are something fairly knew ,it used to be that you would hear of some judge getting goofy here and there,but now it's like a cancer that no good will come from for the breed.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
Last Edited by on Oct 20, 2008 6:04 AM
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Santandercol
3247 posts
Oct 20, 2008
6:11 AM
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2561,sounds like a world cup winner??Seems like Scott's post makes pretty good sense of the situation.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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pure roller
115 posts
Oct 20, 2008
6:48 AM
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Congratulation Able. I see your going to be tough to beat. Those are some unbelievable scores. Great job fellas
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FRENCHROLL
254 posts
Oct 20, 2008
6:57 AM
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Bennie i will holla at you as soon as get back bro
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"FLY FOR LIFE"
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Scott
1197 posts
Oct 20, 2008
8:32 AM
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PS That isn't to say that Able didnt fly a smoken team, but high scores are only representive of the judge.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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Drama Side
159 posts
Oct 20, 2008
8:46 AM
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I agree Scott some of these judges call everything that move. They get a thousand and better with a local judge score. Then the finals judge come they get 300 are less. I seen some kits that didn't even score a hundred but because of the name they give them big scores so they can make the finals. Thats just how it is most of the times.
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juanrollers
145 posts
Oct 20, 2008
11:50 AM
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I am not a judge but I can say that these birds were spinning together and not fluttering. If someone knows what date the finals are I will make sure to take my camcorder and post the video on here.
Last Edited by on Oct 20, 2008 11:51 AM
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elopez
1761 posts
Oct 20, 2008
11:57 AM
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I believe that region, will fly on the 12th and the LA region on the 13th.
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
http://lopezloft22.bravehost.com/
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BA Rollers
90 posts
Oct 20, 2008
12:28 PM
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Scott you know me well enough to know where I stand on judging and I can say that if I were judging this easily would have been the most points I would have ever given to date, probably damn near twice as much than I have ever given and easily approaching 1000. It was legit dude.
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Scott
1199 posts
Oct 20, 2008
3:28 PM
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Bri, approacing a 1000 is a lot easier to swallow than the real goofy stuff we see today, like I said in another post I'm sure Abel put up a smoken kit.
In all honesty if I would have seen that this post evolved around Abels fly I would have stayed off of this topic,but I didn't and it is too late now LOL
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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SpinCityRollers
219 posts
Oct 20, 2008
5:11 PM
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I believe it (and if i believe it then it is so)to many skilled eyes are telling me the same thing between the range of 800 to 1100 Ive seen that about 3 times at Willie wright house randy Gibson House the birds are capable
Good job Abel
WE Have to learn not to rip each other down because I am definetly guilty of that and being negative makes this shit no fun !!!!
peple need to worry about your own Dam back yards and keep yours rolling and have fun !!!!!
its a hobby remember
Good job abel hope to see ya in the finals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Yours truly
The new MADmAX the Producer
Last Edited by on Oct 20, 2008 5:12 PM
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kopetsa
1915 posts
Oct 20, 2008
5:16 PM
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"I believe it (and if i believe it then it is so)" i hope you were joking..?
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Andrew C.
Last Edited by on Oct 20, 2008 5:20 PM
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SpinCityRollers
220 posts
Oct 20, 2008
5:25 PM
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why would i joke
By asking that question the jokes on you i guess
were you there kopesta
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kopetsa
1916 posts
Oct 20, 2008
5:30 PM
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No I wasn't, obviously, but this " I believe it (and if i believe it then it is so)" just didn't sound all that right.
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Andrew C.
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Drama Side
161 posts
Oct 20, 2008
5:31 PM
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I reading the post and there's nobody on here that said they didn't believe it.
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SpinCityRollers
222 posts
Oct 20, 2008
5:36 PM
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drama i didnt say that either i said i believe it that it scott said it reflects the judge. I believe it that it
good job abel hope to see yah in the finals
mad max
and the best kit ive seen in 2008 was at Randy gibson
house
Last Edited by on Oct 20, 2008 5:40 PM
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Santandercol
3249 posts
Oct 20, 2008
5:50 PM
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I'd love to be able to see kits like those fly!!!Sorry if I was negative.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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Drama Side
162 posts
Oct 20, 2008
5:50 PM
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The best kit I seen this year was Keith's and Abels. I can't wait to the fall fly finals I haven't seen my home boy Ro Black birds this year. I will be at everybody house for the finals. Good luck to everybody we need it out here in So. Cal. Good luck to you to Mad Max but somebody from So. Cal bringing it home this year. LOL!
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Scott
1201 posts
Oct 20, 2008
6:44 PM
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(WE Have to learn not to rip each other down because I am definetly guilty of that and being negative makes this shit no fun !!!!)
Max, who was ripping who down ?
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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spanky
613 posts
Oct 20, 2008
7:49 PM
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THE ACTUAL DATE FOR THE FINALS ARE NOV. 2nd AND 3rd FOR SAN BERNANDINO AND 4th FOR L.A.
SPANKY
SGVS
Last Edited by on Oct 20, 2008 7:54 PM
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spanky
614 posts
Oct 20, 2008
7:53 PM
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I SEEN BIGER SCORE KIT. BUT IT WAS NOTHING TO THE KIT ABEL FLEW. LIKE I SAID THE BEST KIT I EVER SEEN.
SPANKY
SGVS
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spanky
615 posts
Oct 20, 2008
8:52 PM
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YOUR RIGTH HAND MAN EFREN. LOL
SPANKY
SGVS
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gabe454
1296 posts
Oct 20, 2008
10:36 PM
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Hey madd maxx i notice a good change in you bro i agree with you 100%
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454
TRIPLE "G" LOFT
L.P.R.C
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PR_rollers
1777 posts
Oct 20, 2008
10:44 PM
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True that Gabe I notice the change too,,MadMax when you said "I believe it (and if i believe it then it is so)it just sounded cocky and that everybody had to believe it because you did,but now i see what you meant that you saw it with your eyes and and there are other eyes that seen the same thing too. so you believe it and no one is going to change your mind cause you know what you saw..I hope I'm right?..
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Ralph
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gabe454
1297 posts
Oct 20, 2008
10:56 PM
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Yeah pr rollers im not a judge but abels kit were no fluttering there was sepration in his birds they worked all they way man why would any one lie here its fact.
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454
TRIPLE "G" LOFT
L.P.R.C
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warpspeed
61 posts
Oct 20, 2008
11:06 PM
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hey ralph a ti te gusta la fiebre brother
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PR_rollers
1781 posts
Oct 20, 2008
11:08 PM
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Gabe you don't need to be a judge all you need is an eye for quality...and if more than one person said those birds were smoking I believe it too and I ain't no judge and i wasn't there imagine that..
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Ralph
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SpinCityRollers
223 posts
Oct 20, 2008
11:53 PM
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(These silly scores are something fairly knew ,it used to be that you would hear of some judge getting goofy here and there,but now it's like a cancer that no good will come from for the breed.)
Bri, approacing a 1000 is a lot easier to swallow than the real goofy stuff we see today, like I said in another post I'm sure Abel put up a smoken kit.
In all honesty if I would have seen that this post evolved around Abels fly I would have stayed off of this topic,but I didn't and it is too late now LOL
See Scott we say things like me myself tend to do then we try to take it back but it still does it damage Am one who likes to say things myself not knowing that am not taking other people feeling in consideration remember judges are humans too they wont get all of it because its judging not saying your statement isnt legit in some manner. My motto is.( it is what it is I will no longer say or try to change things that is not in my backyard as long as people are happy with there scores and there birds I will be happy for them!!!!
Good Luck
Marlon Madmax Garnett
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PR_rollers
1786 posts
Oct 21, 2008
10:12 AM
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Amen to that Madmax....Warspeed si mi gusta la fiebre mucho lol....Congrats my Bro..keep up the good work..
The best kit i seen was when a kit 4 red tail hawk attack my birds at the same time cornering them in the sky.. ......
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Ralph
Last Edited by on Oct 21, 2008 10:57 AM
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smoke747
1359 posts
Oct 21, 2008
3:34 PM
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Ther was a time when scoring 63 pts MJ, OR 81 PTS KB, or 100pts WC could not be done in a single bball game but they happened reguardless of who saw it or believed it. I'm willing to bet that of all the guys that have doubt about those scores, they would not renounce their score if it were their own kit that got judged the same way.
How many times have you seen a ref call a foul that did not happen or not call one that did happen? If the judges are fair and judges eveyone equally then there should not be a problem. The bad thing about judging is, if a person wins a major fly with a low score (200 or less) everybody calls it luck,but if the person wins a major fly with a high score (1000 pts or more) they question the judging. come on fellas regardles of how we feel about the scoring its down in blk and wht, DONE DEAL!
smoke747
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Keith London
ICRC
Last Edited by on Oct 23, 2008 8:09 PM
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gabe454
1298 posts
Oct 21, 2008
3:59 PM
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I agree with you 100%Smoke!!Okay abel wasnt the only person who scored that much i beleive thier was another person why isnt he mentioned on here can anyone tell me why???Why is it when abel or anybody else scores high there seems to be a real big problem...
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454
TRIPLE "G" LOFT
L.P.R.C
Last Edited by on Oct 21, 2008 4:02 PM
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juanrollers
150 posts
Oct 22, 2008
9:06 PM
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Can't wait for the finals to see another bunch of great kits. This time i will record it as long as the home owner does'nt mind. And it will get posted on here for everyone to enjoy.
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quickspin
866 posts
Oct 23, 2008
12:40 PM
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Honestly one of the best performing kits that I have seen was at my friend Jay Moreno in Long Beach. He ususally score 100-300 points that's it on fly's. Not much compare to most now. But his birds were fast and deep. He had birds directly from Bob Scott, some from J Leroy Smith and some from Tom Hatcher. Now this birds were what you call fast rollers.
I ask him who he saw that had the best kit he had seen and he said from Joe Bowers from Norco CPRC back in the 90s.
My other friend said that the best kit he saw was at Doug Thorley in Long Beach.
Last Edited by on Oct 23, 2008 1:13 PM
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spanky
618 posts
Oct 23, 2008
4:57 PM
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EFREN YEAH WHAT EVER GETS YOU THROU THE DAY.
SPANKY
SGVS
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smoke747
1364 posts
Oct 23, 2008
8:08 PM
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Gabe, if someone can't do something or have not done it, they'll say it can't be done because they can't do it.
smoke747
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Keith London
ICRC
Last Edited by on Oct 23, 2008 11:13 PM
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TimP
89 posts
Oct 23, 2008
8:15 PM
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What's up Keith, how's the flying treating you getting totally ripped yet?
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gabe454
1303 posts
Oct 23, 2008
8:22 PM
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I agree with you smoke thats very true.....
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454
TRIPLE "G" LOFT
L.P.R.C
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fresnobirdman
172 posts
Oct 23, 2008
8:28 PM
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man!
theres a kit that great and no one video tapes it?
hummm...
making me feel like i have junk rollers.. lol
~~Fresnobirdman~~
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smoke747
1366 posts
Oct 23, 2008
8:28 PM
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Whats up Tim P.? Igot ripped up good this week. Have not flown #1 kit since Monday. I lost two to the FALCON that day from the #1 kit. 1 from #2 kit tues, 1 from #3 and 2from #4 wed. 6 birds in 3 days.
smoke747
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Keith London
ICRC
Last Edited by on Oct 23, 2008 8:29 PM
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TimP
90 posts
Oct 23, 2008
8:35 PM
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Are you going to try and hold #1 until the week of and kind of whip um back into shape because those are some bad #'s.
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PR_rollers
1807 posts
Oct 23, 2008
10:08 PM
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Sounds like lock up for a few Smoke ,,sorry to hear that..peace ...
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Ralph
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elopez
1774 posts
Oct 23, 2008
10:49 PM
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Man Keith, looks like the BOP's followed you home from my house.
I'm out 9 this week. Lock down my A and B team. Trying to lock down the rest...
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
http://lopezloft22.bravehost.com/
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juanrollers
153 posts
Oct 23, 2008
10:53 PM
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Hey Efren whats up! Man you guys are getting hit bad, that's not cool.I hope it gets better for you guys.
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pure roller
116 posts
Oct 24, 2008
11:02 PM
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smoke 747 you tell them. Able keep doing what you do. Able call me when your ready to hit the gym. No matter what I'm proud of the both of you guys. Able i told you no pressure for me. I see you got it bad. For me I get to enjoy the ride no expectations from the public who keep their eyes on the big fish like you, smoke and the many top guys i didn't name.
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elopez
1780 posts
Oct 25, 2008
12:13 PM
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Yeah Juan, it's pretty bad durring this time.
Bennie good luck in the finals.
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Efren Lopez
SGVS
http://lopezloft22.bravehost.com/
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smoke747
1371 posts
Oct 29, 2008
1:01 AM
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I'll see what happens thursday
smoke747
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Keith London
ICRC
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