RUDY..ZUPPPPP
2214 posts
Nov 03, 2008
1:42 AM
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Never tried pigeon mole...
But i love chicken mole with rice and beans...with tortillas......lol
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RUDY PAYEN
PANCHO VILLA LOFT
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George R.
1128 posts
Nov 03, 2008
6:15 AM
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Rudy Whattttssssss UPPPPPPPP !!!!!!!!!
Pigeon Mole rice and beans and A Cold Brew Rudy..........
The Novice
George
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BA Rollers
105 posts
Nov 03, 2008
7:11 AM
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T-town, how old are you?
Guys, let this be a wake up call to you. Our society is changing rapidly from hunter/gatherer to social nieve. Our children today aren't growing up with the experience of how to hunt, fish or cultivate a food source. Most wouldn't know how to clean a fish or skin out a rabbit. I bet you there are only a handful here that know how to breast a dove or pigeon. They are growing up on electronic stimuli and know that food is either in the refrigerator or at the drive through. When asked the question...."what would you do when the lights go out?", most have absolutely no idea what that means or the ramifications of it. That in itself is the evidence that this generation will consume itself and be left wondering.
Last Edited by on Nov 03, 2008 7:11 AM
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brudahpete
72 posts
Nov 03, 2008
7:24 AM
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I absolutely agree. With the lack of a silver lining on the economic cloud, people may have to be creative or stand in a soup line. I guess the choice is up to everyone!
Last Edited by on Nov 03, 2008 7:31 AM
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ICEMAN710
595 posts
Nov 03, 2008
7:52 AM
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t-town, i was replying to your posts last night but opted to not to because you stated " I just happen to like Roller pigeons.. You guys can do what ever you want with yours." yet you you posts remarks like your lasts. You are naive t-town. like brian said, how old are you? Sounds like your the only "old lady" here with all your bickering. get a life? yes you should. You really contradict yourself, you also stated "hell do what you want" then why not let the comments be and you keep your comments to yourself. just because you dont agree with a topic doesnt mean you should bash on people. Be constructive if you may. I really dont see how those remarks given are so smart assed as you say.
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Gary
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T-town-rollers
52 posts
Nov 03, 2008
9:38 AM
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BA Rollers
Thanks for asking !! I am 66 yrs. old I spent 29 YRS. in the Marines. I lived on a farm growing up. And yes I hunted rabbitts, deer,and,fished and still do..I had an ol coon hound and hunted coon too.. And I belong to the N.R.A. !!And I use to ride in Rodeos. Is this enought Info. about me ??
So don't come on with this B.S. about back to nature shit.
MY WHOLE POINT IN WHAT I SAID !! IS I COULD NEVER EAT A ROLLER PIGEON THAT I RAISED ! MAYBE YOU CAN !! SO WHATS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT ?? YOU GUYS ACT LIKE I PERSONALY OFFENED YOU { EACH AND EVERYONE.} SO WHAT DO I NEED TO DO SEND YOU A PIC. OF ME IN MY MILITARY UNIFORM ?? PULLING THE HEAD OFF A PIGEON ??? YOU PEOPLE CAN EAT ALL THE PIGEONS YOU WANT TOO !!! THERE !!! DOES THAT MAKE YOU HAPPY ??
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brudahpete
75 posts
Nov 03, 2008
10:04 AM
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Sir, you need to find a hobby and relax. Most of us aren't out to offend anyone, just simply joking around. If you can't calm down, take a minute from the computer, fly a kit and let it go. Sorry that you became so wound up, I hope you can take this post as an olive branch.
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PR_rollers
1875 posts
Nov 03, 2008
11:00 AM
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And here I am thinking you was 16 yrs old..my bad..
You state your opinion which is kool,,.. but then you start calling us old ladies and what kind of pigeon man are we..you have a choice read the post or move on..but we respect each other in here like you said we can do what ever we want.I don't eat pigeons unless you cook it for me but I don't go calling or bashing anyone here who do..to each is own..----
Ralph
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T-town-rollers
53 posts
Nov 03, 2008
11:00 AM
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brudahpete
I agree with you !!! This thing just got carried away.
And I do have a bit of a temper. But something that started out so simpel just kept growing. I was stationed overseas and I watched those people eat any and everything.
And I guess some of those old momeries came back !! Those poor basturds would be happy to have a pigeon to eat !!
So I do agree with you. Enought said ??
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Otis
172 posts
Nov 03, 2008
11:54 AM
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Hey T-Town, I respect that you place such high regards to the consumption of your rollers! I do too! What I have a problem with is your thinking that you are doing the right thing by letting them go into the wild. You know what happens to a box of birds let go? First those smart and tough enough to avoid the hawks won't be many, so that's like closing your traps and not allowing your birds to enter in face of an onslaught. Secondly, your birds first need will be water and as they pass over lakes or ponds in pursuit of home, they only remember drinking and finding water in that vessel you last provided, thus unless it's raining dehydration reaches critical mass. Dying a slow death is a lot more painful that a quick exit.
Flocking up with commies could happen but they would have to compete against larger birds that know the rules and what to eat. I'm sure you know this, but my last point is I just recovered a box of birds that a heartless jerk left in the wild to die. It's been a struggle to put any weight back on them with the cold getting more prominent. Quickly culling your birds using humane methods is considerably better than allowing them to suffer just because you don't see them suffer! Otis
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brudahpete
78 posts
Nov 03, 2008
12:05 PM
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Hey Otis, I've been the local pigeon trapper for a long time. A lot of these "commies" as you call them have come to my place to roost until my neighbor has another bird dog or two to train. Yes, I agree, turning domestic birds out is nuts. In farming areas like my town, there is plenty of food but they become a mess in the barns, sawmills and other hiding places. The feral ones get used by bird dog trainers which gives the dog a great experience with real birds. I do cull out to the feral loft so that they can be dispatched by someone else.
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T-town-rollers
54 posts
Nov 03, 2008
3:23 PM
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Otis
I just had one more thing to say !!! I don't want youall thinking I'm some kind of weirdo ?? I have cull birds to and I usely give several of them away to kids I know .. I raised 230 Rollers this past year { 2008 }. So there are always birds to give away as well as selling. I sell a lot of birds each year.. I keep around 200 breeders. I wouldn't ever just turn them out. I live in BOP alley. I was just a little pissed the other day. This is a good site I am on here about everyday. A person can learn a lot on here. Everyone has there own feelings about differant things. Which is normal !! So I will leave it at that !!
Thank You for Listening.
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TT
Gold Member
113 posts
Nov 03, 2008
5:03 PM
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We are all friends here.
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Tony.
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Santandercol
3331 posts
Nov 03, 2008
5:57 PM
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Holy -hit,,,,whatever...
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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KiddenAround
202 posts
Nov 03, 2008
6:58 PM
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ROFL at the reaction this post got! Scott's comment about yellow birds really cracks me up!
I'm voting with the country guys who make pigeon stew. Sorry -- might be "pets", but my survival instinct is alive and well. (In the movie "Cold Mountain", I would have had to play the part that Renee Zelwegger played.) Nothing wrong with an instant, quick, humane death and then harvesting what you kill.
I've never had pigeon, but I sure do love quail!
And I've raised calves on the bottle, turned them out to pasture for a few months, then slaughtered them and put them in the freezer. Better that they feed the family, than the family starve trying to feed them through the winter!
It's just no big deal.
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KiddenAround
203 posts
Nov 03, 2008
7:00 PM
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ROFL at Martha Stewart site!
Anyone have a good recipe for menudo?
lol
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-- Laura
Professional Thrill Seeker
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rollernewbie
191 posts
Nov 03, 2008
7:47 PM
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WHOA!!..u guys sure got alot of recipes..lol..sounds yummy..lol..if i was to cull my birds..i wouldnt be able too...cant bare killing your own bird or someone else would do it for me.xD...so i rather give them away if i had some..
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RollerNewbie
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chewy
194 posts
Nov 04, 2008
12:58 AM
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what we do with our culls..?
1) Eat them
2)give them away
3) let them fly away..n a far far..space?
4) give it to hunting dog for training
5) who knows what we gonna do with them..but if we..do..its sure going somewhere...lol..
chewy
just my thoughts..
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Fire_Baller_916
325 posts
Nov 04, 2008
10:50 AM
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I think when we give our cull birds away it add more cull birds to other people loft...I think the best ways to get rid of cull birds is to just put them in a pot, release them some where far, use them as BOPs bait, or use them as fosters...
Chai_Seng
Last Edited by on Nov 04, 2008 1:47 PM
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kopetsa
2089 posts
Nov 04, 2008
11:45 AM
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I can agree with "use them as fosters" or give them to other people who just want some pets or want to use them as fosters.. Or who just like top show them.
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Andrew C.
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kopetsa
2090 posts
Nov 04, 2008
11:47 AM
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It's like the same thing if somebody is a model and doesn't win, to just shoot them because they weren't the best or perfect!
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Andrew C.
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Edgar
472 posts
Nov 04, 2008
2:06 PM
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I rip their heads out !!!!!!Edgar
"Amezquita's Loft"
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
1888 posts
Nov 04, 2008
4:24 PM
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Andrew you got to remember these birds are not human you can't compare then to us..If I smack you your brother is going to feel it .you think if I smack a bird his or her brother is going to feel it .well maybe since I do hit hard ..:)
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Ralph
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Armand
34 posts
Nov 04, 2008
4:42 PM
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any of u guys ever ate snapping turtle? caught it when i was a kid dad cook it smeeled so bad even he wouldent try it. lol
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TT
GOLD MEMBER
124 posts
Nov 04, 2008
4:45 PM
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Nope, After your comment I dont think i want to lol
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Tony.
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Snake Doctor
323 posts
Nov 04, 2008
5:05 PM
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Yep! Last Alligator Snapper I caught weighed 65lbs. A lot depends on how it is dressed and the water in which it was caught.
I know each persons taste is different and somewhat depends on what you were exposed to growing up.
I would speculate that few on this sight have ever experienced true hunger or had to watch loved ones go hungry. Some may have seen it in other places in the world, it is a disturbing sight.
I don't think anyone can say with any certainty what they would or would not do facing famine.
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"Semper Fi"
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TheGame
284 posts
Nov 04, 2008
5:14 PM
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Armand back in Nepal my one of my uncles had caught a large turtle and they brought it back to eat... same thing happened it smelled terrible and no one ate it from what I remember LOL
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kopetsa
2105 posts
Nov 04, 2008
5:17 PM
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Some of my birds I wouldn't sell for 10,000 each.. I like some certain ones a whole tonne.. lol
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Andrew C.
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
1889 posts
Nov 04, 2008
5:41 PM
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Armand that brings memory's when i was a kid I went to the Bronx River and caught a snapping turtle with a broom wouldn't let it go I took it home my mom didn't let me keep it as a pet because it was dangerous ,stank and was dirty from the dirty river.I use to take all kind of animal that I would catch .took one time 20 frogs we had two bathroom so i put them in one no one use..30 lil chicks this is not about eating but for a pet for me but in an apartment building so I had to get rid of them all I was about 10 or 11 ..street dogs ..always love animals.. -------
Ralph
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fresnobirdman
201 posts
Nov 04, 2008
10:31 PM
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t-town-rollers,
i feel you man, when you see something that you raised with your hands for a long time, you can't see any harm happen to it.
if you guys are going to kill it, look into there eyes, maybe that will make you think before you kill it.
when i have to kill my unwanted homers, i make someone else do it, cause i cant bare to see anything happen to it.
~~Fresnobirdman~~
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kopetsa
2111 posts
Nov 05, 2008
6:59 AM
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I don't kill my birds or give them to others to KILL for me..
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Andrew C.
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TheGame
286 posts
Nov 05, 2008
7:29 AM
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I have yet to cull a bird :)
I only have 7 at the moment tho LOL
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Armand
35 posts
Nov 05, 2008
9:55 AM
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ive culled a few birds that were hurt or sick but to cull just because they dont perform to a certin standerd well does that mean if i dont perform to standerd my wife can cull me?
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Santandercol
3343 posts
Nov 05, 2008
11:13 AM
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Depends how good her lawyer is.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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kopetsa
2112 posts
Nov 05, 2008
12:32 PM
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lol
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Andrew C.
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Armand
36 posts
Nov 05, 2008
12:43 PM
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lol
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T-town-rollers
55 posts
Nov 06, 2008
11:07 AM
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Fresnobirdman
Thank you !! Someone at least see's what I mean !!
If a man will raise a good line of birds and does it with some control of the amout of them.
Then there isn't that many to cull. Sure there is always a few but you can deal with that.
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Fireball
9 posts
Nov 06, 2008
3:59 PM
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I saw a good T-shirt on a Middle School boy today:
"God has a plan and place for all of His animals...right beside the potatoes and gravy"...Amen
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dmitch
87 posts
Nov 06, 2008
5:34 PM
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I put all my culls on birth control so they cant make more and fly the hell out of them.
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Indy
47 posts
Nov 06, 2008
8:09 PM
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"God has a plan and place for all of His animals...right beside the potatoes and gravy"
I will have seen that as well and liked it.
Here is another T-shirt I have seen
P.E.T.A. People Eating Tasty Animals
I think everyone has the right to do what they want to do with their culls as long as it is humane, if they want to eat them that is fine if they want to give them away that is okay and if people want to keep everything they raise that is their choice as long as they pay the feed bill. I do not see why some have to be so critical of what other people do with their birds. If someone does not want to kill their own birds or eat them that is okay but they should try understand that others on this group grew up eating pigeon and to them their is nothing wrong with it. I have never eaten my own pigeons or any pigeons for that matter but that does not mean that I am going to tell other peopole that they are not true pigeon breeders if they do. I know lots of people who love breeding lots of different types of animals and many of them consider being able to consume what they raise as part of their love for their hobby.
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JohnL
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dmitch
88 posts
Nov 06, 2008
9:01 PM
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My dog ate some of my culls on birth control now she cant have puppis man.
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KiddenAround
216 posts
Nov 07, 2008
6:24 AM
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Fireball and Indy -- I love those shirts! I can't bring myself to even shoot a chicken-killing-stealing raccoon, and I still can't wring a pigeon's neck, but I can cook up a squirrel or a deer or a goose if someone else does it! But those shirts are funny to me!
I'm reading a book right now about a traveling circus in the 1930's, and one of the horses foundered beyond any hope, so they put him down. The wife got mad at her husband for feeding her beloved horse to the lions and tigers, but I think that was perfectly sensible. The horse is dead, doesn't care what happens to its body! Why let the cats starve?
Since I've been raising horses to sell for a living for half my life, I had to learn to detach from emotions a long time ago. It's all about logic now.
Quick, humane death and then why not put it right back into the food chain?
Just my lil ol' humble opinion! :)
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-- Laura
Professional Thrill Seeker
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TheGame
293 posts
Nov 09, 2008
7:46 PM
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wow lol this thread is still going....
Im post 100 on it yay!! LOL
Last Edited by on Nov 09, 2008 7:46 PM
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kopetsa
2127 posts
Nov 09, 2008
7:53 PM
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wow why aren't those t-shirts funny at all.. :(
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Andrew C.
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brudahpete
110 posts
Nov 09, 2008
8:17 PM
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Because maybe you have tender feelings that you stillhave to connect with!
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Santandercol
GOLD MEMBER
3365 posts
Nov 09, 2008
9:39 PM
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Group HUGGGGGGG<
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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KiddenAround
218 posts
Nov 10, 2008
6:37 AM
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Good gosh, I love you guys! Y'all have me rolling laughing this morning! You guys have the best sense of humor and wit! lol
Sorry, Andrew -- I do feel for you. I used to be that way, still love all animals, but to be able to raise and sell them, let them go to an unknown future, I had to toughen up a little. It was that, or go back to working in an office, and I chose the critters!
You guys are too much!
ROFL
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-- Laura
Professional Thrill Seeker
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kopetsa
2129 posts
Nov 10, 2008
6:54 AM
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lol no tender feelings
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Andrew C.
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brudahpete
119 posts
Nov 10, 2008
10:07 AM
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I'm still dobbing my eyes! Sniff! Sniff!
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kopetsa
2132 posts
Nov 10, 2008
1:48 PM
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lol Pete I'm lost!
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Andrew C.
Home of the Yellows
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