tou_vang
446 posts
Nov 02, 2008
2:05 PM
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how many peoples start putting their youngs into the kit box at 18 days old like what pensom says in his book? is there really a difference if you wait a little longer?
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brudahpete
67 posts
Nov 02, 2008
4:24 PM
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I don't know how many kits you have but do you put that young of a bird with a real seasoned kit or with a bunch of up and coming ones. It would be interesting to see the answers you get here. I generally hold off for a full month or so. That's just me. Of course, I have been doing my own thing by trial and error without this kind of support group to learn from.
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pisto
135 posts
Nov 02, 2008
4:30 PM
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the younger they are,the easier it is to manage them
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yang501424
175 posts
Nov 02, 2008
5:05 PM
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The youngest I think I've wean a bird might be 18days but I mostly do it maybe 21-24 days old when they cant fly yet. Its more easy for me to train them outside.
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Good Game Loft
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PR_rollers
1863 posts
Nov 02, 2008
5:23 PM
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Brudahpete he means like putting them on there own like a kitbox or pen but pulling them from their parents at that age and not put in with older birds....
Tou I am one of those who pull his babies at 18 days old the way Pensom train his birds in that book I sent you is the same way I train mine.with them being pull at that age they learn who to depend on their own eating by them self .an early recognition of their owner .an increase eagerness to use their wings an outstanding intelligence to learn their loft and surroundings... Now what I do is put them back in once in a while so that the parents can give them a good feeding before put away..I dip their head in water so that they learn to drink on their own once I see that.. they don't go back with their parents.. good post..
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Ralph
Last Edited by on Nov 02, 2008 5:30 PM
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brudahpete
69 posts
Nov 02, 2008
5:26 PM
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Right on. I'm just shooting in the dark here as I'm not into the jargon of pigeon talk having done this myself with no mentor for years. The info is awesome though!
Last Edited by on Nov 02, 2008 5:26 PM
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Electric-man
2096 posts
Nov 02, 2008
5:32 PM
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I don't have good luck with introducing young birds in a kit with older birds. They just aren't aggressive enough to compete for the feed.
However, I will throw 1 or 2 older hens in with young birds to show them where to get a drink. There is always a couple that I have to physically dip their beaks in the water a few times to let them get the hang of it.
They usually pick up on the feeding on their own.
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Val
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PR_rollers
1864 posts
Nov 02, 2008
5:48 PM
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Hey Brother Val sup.. Val I don't put them in with older birds neither because they get pick on..I do have fun with them when I put the parents in the fly pen and put the babies with them and put feed on the floor and watch the babies be a pain in the butt going after the parents and not letting them eat cause they shoving the beaks into their beak..lol.. then the babies get tire of not getting feed when they want they mimic their parents and eat on their own they start picking on the floor for grain too then they get fed by the parents so they get smart they eat their grains and eat from the parents too.a doulble.. this is the part I enjoy when I do this..
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Ralph
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tou_vang
447 posts
Nov 02, 2008
6:30 PM
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thanks guys. thanks again pr_rollers for the book. i probably read it like more then 30 times already.
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PR_rollers
1867 posts
Nov 02, 2008
6:39 PM
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Tou you are welcome ..I see that you are reading it by the question you ask which is good.just do like I did you pick up some things and move on to learn from your own.. good luck..
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Ralph
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tou_vang
448 posts
Nov 02, 2008
6:50 PM
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you too.
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Santandercol
3328 posts
Nov 02, 2008
8:19 PM
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21 days with them as close in age as possible.Best I've been able to do is have 20 in the kitbox all born within 30 days of each other.By 23 days they will be eating on their own.18 days is a little young.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
Last Edited by on Nov 02, 2008 8:20 PM
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Santandercol
3329 posts
Nov 02, 2008
8:47 PM
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I just find with 25 days they are a little homed in to the breeder loft and it takes a few more days to break them of that.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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