teo
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Dec 25, 2003
2:18 PM
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hy!i m a roller breeder from Romania.i have over 40 rollers all colors.my.i don t know about your pigeons performance but romanian rollers are more beautifull then ... those from the photos on the site.if u are interested in rollers photos .... i ll send u...just give me your mail adress!bye!
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rollerpigeon
4 posts
Dec 25, 2003
8:27 PM
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Hello Teo.
Thanks for the offer. Yes, please send some pictures of Romanian Rollers along with a brief description of each and include some details of their history and aerial capabilities.
Birmingham Rollers are known primarily for their aerial performance and less for color although many breeders do raise some very colorful strains.
The Rollers displayed in the photo gallery are from our family of Ruby Rollers that we have been developing for performance only since 1993. Color is less an issue for performance in our humble opinion.
Look forward to seeing your pictures. Send to Info@Roller-Pigeon.Com.
FLY ON!
Tony Chavarria
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teo
Guest
Dec 26, 2003
2:09 PM
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I ve sent u photos!I hope u ill like my pigeons!My rollers are beautifull but ... they roll good!Many of them i don t use to fly ... because they roll until they touch the ground and i ve lost many good pigeons this way!Tell me what do u think about them ! bye!!!
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rollerpigeon
6 posts
Jan 01, 2004
3:21 PM
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Hello Teo,
Thanks for sending pictures. They are posted in the "Rollers Around The World" section.
If you are able, can you give a brief history of the Romanian Roller? When it was developed and how? What is the hobby like in Romania and how did you get started?
Thanks!
FLY ON!
Tony Chavarria
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teo
Guest
Jan 21, 2004
2:26 AM
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Hy!most of the Romanian rollers are "Galatzi Rollers" and "Romanian white tail".The "Galatzi rollers" after the Romanian town Galati.I've seen the pictures from "pidgeons around the world" ,and belive me,those aren't "Galati rollers".I should know that beacause i live close to their home town GALATI.Those two black&white pidgeons from my photo are the true "Glatzi Rollers".They can have diferent colors : black&white,red&white,blue-gray&white.I will try to send you more pictures with our pidgeons and i hope some data about our breed.The pidgeon breeding is getting lower evry year beacause the costs are very high and the breeders are generaly old people .I hope you will answer me soon.Good bye.
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teo
Guest
Jan 21, 2004
8:48 AM
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ohhh!I know ... the firsts pictures are whit ... galatz rollers ... and the seconds whit other rollers!You haven t post them right !:)))
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~OLICHKA~
Guest
Jul 01, 2004
12:54 AM
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hi teo
i wold love to see your birds
you can send me the pics if you want my e-mail is olichka_olichka@hotmail.com
~LOOK UP~
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J_Star
9 posts
Sep 16, 2004
12:16 PM
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Hi Teo,
I love to see your pictures also. Please e mail me @ Alnimer@eriecoast.com. Thanks
Last Edited by J_Star on Sep 16, 2004 12:16 PM
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James749
9 posts
Sep 16, 2004
12:31 PM
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Hi Teo, I think you started something here! I also would like to see your birds! and as for your english, you are doing Great, I don't think they're many here that can speak Romanian. James E-mail jdarton@cableone.net
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redneckhippie15
8 posts
Sep 16, 2004
6:10 PM
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Howdy Teo,
I would like to see your birds as well. Sounds like you have quite the kit.
redneckhippie15@yahoo.com
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redneckhippie*blue dot lofts*
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Teo
1 post
Jan 31, 2005
1:16 AM
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My galatz rollers can be seen at ....http://www.porumbei.ro/columbofili/Teo.Naum/galerie_foto3.php?id=1 .The site is in romanian but you can see some photos whit my best rolling pigeons.
Last Edited by Teo on Jan 31, 2005 1:17 AM
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Siddiqir
163 posts
Jan 31, 2005
8:07 AM
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Teo, nice pictures. How they are performance wise? Kitting ability? Depth? Frequency? Thanks, -Rauf
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Teo
2 posts
Jan 31, 2005
11:16 AM
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I don t understand very well the terms in english but i understastand you want a description.They fly very high they roll much ... sometimes they roll until they tuch the ground.My pigeons roll from 20 to 40 times.Many of them don t fly because i don t want to risc loosing them.
But the roll and flyght are diferent to every pigeon.Some fall on the ground ... they can even fly.Some fly for many hours (the national record is 11h 30 min) but those are lines selected for flyght.
I have pigeons that are more selected for rooling skils but they fly 2 3h.The galatz roller tend to get more and more a exposition pigeon.In many parts of Romania they don t roll any more.In my town the old lines are major... the roll is our objective.
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Alan Bliven
84 posts
Jan 31, 2005
3:45 PM
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Thanks Teo,
It's a shame but almost all rollers/tumblers that are not Birmingham rollers have disapeared in America.
Keep your strain alive!
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Alan
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J_Star
193 posts
Jan 31, 2005
6:09 PM
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We call any pigeon that rolls to the ground a Roll down. To us they don't value much. They tend to kill themselves if they do it from a considerable distance and speed combination. We try to eliminate all roll downs from our breeding practices and thrive at not keep any of them around. If your birds roll down much consider changing the feed and how much or possible fly them often to get the excitement out of them and hopefully perform with control.
Control is very important to save the birds from committing suicide.
Yours in the sport, Jay.
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GeorgeV
2 posts
Feb 01, 2005
7:01 AM
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Tony, How do I access "Rollers of the World'. I'd like to see these birds.
Thanks, GeorgeV
Last Edited by GeorgeV on Feb 01, 2005 7:08 AM
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Teo
3 posts
Feb 01, 2005
7:17 AM
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You can see my galatz rollers at ... http://www.porumbei.ro/columbofili/Teo.Naum/galerie_foto3.php?id=1 . There are some of my pigeons.Bye !
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GeorgeV
3 posts
Feb 01, 2005
8:24 AM
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Thanks Teo, I can't seem to acces your site? My e-mail address is Treewindows@aol.com. You seem to have generated a lot of interest!
Thanks, George v
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Teo
4 posts
Feb 01, 2005
8:39 AM
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I don t understand ... you can see my site ?Copy the adress i wrote then paste You can acces the site just by click the adress on this site.I hope now you will see them. :)
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bluebar
26 posts
Feb 01, 2005
12:11 PM
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Teo,
Those are some great looking birds - and an even better looking breeder :-)
I had not realized you had race bird also, they look really good also.
Frank Mosca
Last Edited by bluebar on Feb 01, 2005 12:12 PM
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Teo
5 posts
Feb 02, 2005
7:40 AM
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Thank you !I will post some new pictures whit some racers that i bought soon.If you are intersed in seeing them chek my pge next week.The have a realy beautiful color.
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bluebar
27 posts
Feb 02, 2005
10:01 AM
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Hi Teo,
I checked out some of the rest of the site that you had the photos posted on also. The articles are most interesting. I don't speak Romanian, but much of it is similar enough to Italian that I could figure out the gist of the genetics article.
If you are reading that, please be aware that the picture they have of a "brown" is not a brown. It's actually a blue grizzle with bronze.
If you want to see a brown, you can see one at my site:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga3/pigeongenetics/picturesbrownpigeons.html
http://www.angelfire.com/ga3/pigeongenetics/
Frank Mosca
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bluebar
29 posts
Feb 02, 2005
12:18 PM
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Yeah, I bred and flew racers for almost 30 years. They are my first love. Since this is a roller site, I don't want to fill it up with racer information, but if you'd like to contact me regarding any racer questions, you may at: bluecheck@lycos.com
Please know, that I will be out of town for three days since I am going to a pigeon show in Hurricane Utah to judge some Oriental Rollers.
As for your immediate questions here:
Yes, we also have occasional racing pigeon shows where the birds must have won a diploma or flown a certain distance to be eligible to compete. Here, we also have California State Racing Pigeon Certified judges to check them.
American Show Racers are a DIFFERENT breed. They were created over the past 50 years or so from flying racing pigeon but have long since become mere Show stock. I know some of the top breeders in the world of those.
And yes, I know Romanians are Latin :-)
Not all of us flunked our history courses. I also admit I know nothing about your rollers except a few pictures I've seen in some of the bulletins from some of the German pigeon club bulletins that I've read.
Frank Mosca
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Teo
8 posts
Feb 03, 2005
1:30 AM
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http://www.porumbei.ro/columbofili/Teo.Naum/galerie_foto2.php here are my new "standard racers"....the first 4 pictures.I want to know how you call them in english and how are they called in Europe ?
Now in Romania we heve a big problem with our galatz rollers many "show peoples" want to make them show pigeons and they modify the standard of the galatz roller.In this standard just beauty counts ... the fly and roll are not even mentioned.Many breeders from theyr home town "Galati" are trying now to put back the old standard.We will see how it will go....
Bye ! :)
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bluebar
31 posts
Feb 03, 2005
2:38 AM
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Hi Teo,
Those first four pics you have posted are unique. I don't know if there is actually an English name for what you have. The birds themselves are Ice colored. So far as I know that is unknown in American Show Racers. The birds themselves seem to look to me as if they were American type Show Racers with a touch of English Genuine Homer in them, but since all the Show Racer stock came from Racing Birds there would be similarities even if they were unrelated.
I can tell you that there are some American breeders of the American Show Racers who would LOVE to have those birds to add to their stock. I used to raise Damascenes and know how difficult it is to get the ice color as uniform as you have it in your birds, especially down under the tail and on the rump as you have it.
If you would like the English names for the colors, here they are. I am going to list first the Racing Breeder standard usage and then the genetic name (which are NOT always the same)
1st 4 pictures: Ice Bar - Ice Bar
#5 Silver Pied - Ash-red bar Pied
#6 Silver bar - Ash-red Bar
#7 White, Black, Blue Bar - same
#8 (Bird on Left) Blue Bar Splash
(often informally in racing homer circles, at least in my area such a bird is referred to as a "seagull" = Larus sp.) pescarus )
Frank Mosca
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Teo
9 posts
Feb 03, 2005
3:28 AM
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the similarity whit American show racer is the body.The body standard has to be like the Amercican Show Racer.But the head is very diferent.If you loke at the head of a AmericanShow Racer and our "standard homers" there is the difrence.They have the head more similar to german show racer a bit roud and the nostrals are not the same.My racers have a head more similar to race homers.
Pescarus=seegal in Romanian :) We also call that colour this way.
For the rollers lovers i hope we haven t bored you with my homers and i promise i will show you the next weeks a vast galery ... with our romanian flyers and rollers races.
:) bye !
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