kopetsa
2150 posts
Nov 11, 2008
1:17 PM
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Will the birds notice this trap from the air easily or should I paint it a different color? How long should they stay on top in the training cage? I have a already had them on there for an hour.
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Andrew C.
Home of the Yellows
Last Edited by on Nov 11, 2008 1:17 PM
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jnyce
369 posts
Nov 11, 2008
1:19 PM
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i let mine sit out three to four hours but u dont need to use ur cage you have a great big fly pen there to get them located
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jerry t
Last Edited by on Nov 11, 2008 1:21 PM
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kopetsa
2151 posts
Nov 11, 2008
1:25 PM
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lol how 'long' should I train them to that trap though? I need to let them see the top of the kit though too.. Is the trap easily noticable?
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Andrew C.
Home of the Yellows
Last Edited by on Nov 11, 2008 1:26 PM
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yang501424
197 posts
Nov 11, 2008
1:43 PM
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If I were you I would tap one side of their wing and set them on the trap landing board. Once they are use to the landing board laying 90 degree to the kitbox they'll know its the door. I think you dont have to change any colors they will look for the landing board and know.
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Good Game Loft
Last Edited by on Nov 11, 2008 1:46 PM
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THISROLL
57 posts
Nov 11, 2008
1:55 PM
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wowo nice set up... your in the middle of nowhere....it like the woods..
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TT
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139 posts
Nov 11, 2008
2:03 PM
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Get them real hungry, Your birds arnt scared of you, stand in the flight pen, with the birds on the platform, and call them in, either with a whistle or feed in a can, do that a couple times in a row with out giving any feed, then when your done, feed them, they'll get the hang of it in no time
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Tony.
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kopetsa
2154 posts
Nov 11, 2008
2:08 PM
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Kit birds aren't tame too much, they'll come to me but barely.. because if I get them too tame, I feel bad to fly them.. maybe i might do that Yang..
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Andrew C.
Home of the Yellows
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kopetsa
2155 posts
Nov 11, 2008
2:08 PM
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Thisroll, this is just my front yard.. lol the back is even worse..
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Andrew C.
Home of the Yellows
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gabe454
1339 posts
Nov 11, 2008
2:52 PM
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Kopesta the best way to find out is to fly them!
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
73 posts
Nov 11, 2008
2:53 PM
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To train them to that trap , hook that cage some how over the trap with them in it, shake a can of feed from inside the loft and they will come through the traps.Like was already said they have all kinds of view to home to.
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Oldfart
878 posts
Nov 11, 2008
3:05 PM
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Andrew, I like your setup a lot. I would suggest switching over to a 4" P.V.C. drop trap or at the minimum reduce the size of your existing traps. It looks really big and where you live I'm sure there are a lot of coons, possum, and such, that could get through your traps. :-(
Thom
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PR_rollers
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1944 posts
Nov 11, 2008
3:25 PM
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yeah Oldfart is right ...and I do what JDA suggested too put cage over the trap door and to top and leave it open all day they will go in and out as please to drink water when hot after a week of that put on top close trap no feed all day make sure you put a piece of wood or something on top of cage so the sun don't get to them all day you know what I mean then in the evening supper time whistle them in train them to your whistle you will see they will be train no if and butts. now get the show on the road.. and don't get attach to your pigeons fly them hard..
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Ralph
Last Edited by on Nov 11, 2008 3:26 PM
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kopetsa
2158 posts
Nov 11, 2008
4:39 PM
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Check this out, I picked up an old training cage from a friend.. Oh yeah there are no coons or possums around here.. Plus when I fly I will be watching the whole time. If there is an emergency, I will shut the kit trap and leave flight pen trap open..
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Andrew C.
Home of the Yellows
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brudahpete
130 posts
Nov 11, 2008
4:40 PM
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You will have no problem with getting them to trap now.
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kopetsa
2160 posts
Nov 11, 2008
4:47 PM
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Ok because the first two fly's I just left the door open.. lol and they trapped in the kit trap. I am also trapping a few new birds in here that I will let out at separate times..
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Andrew C.
Home of the Yellows
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RodSD
27 posts
Nov 11, 2008
5:00 PM
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The last 2 pics are perfect. Yeah that was the way I did mine. After that I remove the cage, open the trap, raise the bob and let the birds come and go. They will fly in small circle, come back, go in and out, basically trying to explore the environment. Then you call them in with whistle or sound.
I made my landing board 2.5 feet length though. That way when they are under attack by a hawk, they just land quick straight through it. Sometimes it is so scary to see because they are like jets landing on an aircraft carrier and they can stumble.
BOP will teach your birds to land rather fast.
You can also shove those birds to the bob to teach them how to get in.
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kopetsa
2162 posts
Nov 11, 2008
5:02 PM
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All 14 went in about two hours ago on their own.. :)
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Andrew C.
Home of the Yellows
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kopetsa
2163 posts
Nov 11, 2008
5:03 PM
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I might start construction on another kit in a couple of days that is 100% identical to this one.. :D to open up another kit for some more birds..
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Andrew C.
Home of the Yellows
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Santandercol
GOLD MEMBER
3377 posts
Nov 11, 2008
6:05 PM
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Good!And they should be hungry enough so they trap in within a minute of landing.Alot of guys build the training cage so it goes in front of the trap and wraps right around to cover the roof so they can be on top.
Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
Last Edited by on Nov 11, 2008 6:07 PM
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
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2301 posts
Nov 11, 2008
6:13 PM
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Nice set up Kopetsa.......
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mario
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222 posts
Nov 11, 2008
6:58 PM
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you are very good young man ... Mario
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kopetsa
2165 posts
Nov 11, 2008
8:38 PM
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LOL Thanks Guys!
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Andrew C.
Home of the Yellows
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jan th
1 post
Nov 12, 2008
4:18 AM
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Andrew,
Very nice setup.
But i would fly them straight out of the kitbox, just by opening the door. And let then come in again through the kitbox's door too.
And i would use the flightpen only to let them in the open when i'm not planning to fly them.
Just my opinion,
Jan
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kopetsa
2172 posts
Nov 12, 2008
6:46 AM
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Thanks and Welcome to the site Jan!
It might be a little late for that.. lol I don't want to confuse them now too much; They have started to train from this one and I have a reason for this too. I want to let them go through the flight pen, then into the kit, so if I ever have an emergency and there is a bird that didn't come back, I can just shut all the birds up in the kit and lock the traps, and just leave the flight trap open, so nothing can get in and harm the rest. :)
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Andrew C.
Home of the Yellows
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KiddenAround
225 posts
Nov 12, 2008
7:26 AM
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Wow -- I like that setup. Nice and airy -- I bet it really is healthy for them.
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Professional Thrill Seeker
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Square
564 posts
Nov 12, 2008
9:45 AM
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The simplisity,, is what I like about your loft. You will be able to getum to home eisly. For me with settlintg birds.. It's to keepum responsive to you and your calls... they should be scrambling when you trigger them, ither with a whistle or just your presence. And for me it's just letting them up, just flying like you dont care if you loose a few. if you get too atached you will be setting yourself up for heart acke,, hope all works out well.. and agian I really like your setup It was always hammerd into me to make your lofts look nice as alot of people think our birsd are flying rats... And with a set up like that you are proving they are more than a sterotype... Nice job...
Square
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kopetsa
2176 posts
Nov 12, 2008
11:11 AM
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Thanks a lot guys! But square I will always care, no matter what, if I even lose one to anything. Not as much if they just fly away. But to see them get taken away by the BOP.. p*sses me off.. lol
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Andrew C.
Home of the Yellows
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kopetsa
2177 posts
Nov 12, 2008
11:52 AM
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I just put that cage on yesterday, so do you know when I can let them fly with this new trap? They all will go through with no problem, except for two which I am working with.. kel. the blue baldy and the black check self.. lol
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Andrew C.
Home of the Yellows
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sippi
594 posts
Nov 12, 2008
8:19 PM
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Andrew if the birds are real young I train for three to five days and then turn them out hungry on the roof to sit and feed them and trap right back in.
If they are older birds and have flown before I settle them three weeks and occasionally one will still fly off.
Sippi
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kopetsa
2184 posts
Nov 12, 2008
10:30 PM
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They are not real young.. They are about 4-5 months old and I have flown 6 birds 4 times already.. This is a new trap so how long should they be trained to this particular 'Trap'?
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Andrew C.
Home of the Yellows
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gabe454
1340 posts
Nov 12, 2008
10:39 PM
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Kopesta you dont worry bro they will trap.
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TRIPLE "G" LOFT
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J_Star
1772 posts
Nov 13, 2008
5:16 AM
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Sorry to disappoint you, but this setup is hawk magnet. Your birds will be terrorized by BOP.
Jay
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kopetsa
2185 posts
Nov 13, 2008
6:45 AM
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Whenever I fly I will be standing right there watching.. Right next to the loft..
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Andrew C.
Home of the Yellows
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Santandercol
GOLD MEMBER
3388 posts
Nov 13, 2008
9:07 AM
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Have your noise makers handy.You can often shoo the buggers off.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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Square
565 posts
Nov 13, 2008
9:43 AM
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Yea kopesta, for me I just try to condition myself to not get too attached toum. I still care if they come up missing or get snached,, but it's just been my experence that once you get attached 'Whammo" it happens. I really dont know if it's the power of suggestion or what ....maby im the only one this has happend to,,,wierd..
Square.
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"Home of the Ghost Town Roller"
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Werstler
85 posts
Nov 13, 2008
10:08 AM
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Yah Square you know the same thing happens to me, I find one I really like and bam it gets picked off. the ones I could care less about never seem to get nabbed. do you think those BOP can read our minds?
Werstler
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Square
567 posts
Nov 13, 2008
11:10 AM
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Yea I dont kno but Tom is a ferm believer in the power of sugestion, and has proved it in his back yard more than once. I rember in Quincy it was a snowey morning and I thought I would show off this bird one last time before it went in the stock pen,,, It was rocking 30ft+ it came outta one with perfect style wings out and WHAMMO!!!! it was like it was in the "Full Nelson",,, gone LOL
Square.
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"Home of the Ghost Town Roller"
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kopetsa
2187 posts
Nov 13, 2008
11:32 AM
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Damn because I care about all of them.. I already have the 8 birds picked out that I will be letting out on Saturday morning..
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Andrew C.
Home of the Yellows
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kopetsa
2190 posts
Nov 13, 2008
12:01 PM
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Has anybody ever lost a roll down to snow?
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Andrew C.
Home of the Yellows
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brudahpete
137 posts
Nov 13, 2008
3:33 PM
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I did three years ago. Don't know what caused it though. The bird was one of my best and started a roll at 60 feet, executed a 30 footer & started another which ended with a thud! Broke her left wing & both legs. Snow was real icy at the time.
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kopetsa
2198 posts
Nov 14, 2008
3:50 PM
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Well I will for sure be flying tomorrow, the only against me are the ravens. And there is the wind which is 15.5342798 miles..?
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Andrew C.
Home of the Yellows
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