Lipper
66 posts
Nov 15, 2008
3:19 PM
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Mike Trevis
The Bigger the Dream the Bigger the Leap
I did not know you could NOT post methods of protecting your birds...It will never happen again...
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
1961 posts
Nov 15, 2008
3:49 PM
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It ok just don't let it happen again if it does I would have to go and arrest you myself..
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Ralph
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kopetsa
2230 posts
Nov 15, 2008
3:53 PM
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lol
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Andrew C.
Home of the Yellows
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
2906 posts
Nov 15, 2008
5:41 PM
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Hey Lipper, what you call protecting is called trapping by law enforcement and is against the MBTA. HUGE fines and jail time await those who violate it.
Read up on Operation High Roller and find out how many roller men were arrested and fined thousands of dollars. Enjoy your birds.
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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Santandercol
GOLD MEMBER
3400 posts
Nov 15, 2008
5:43 PM
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Mike,there were several guys busted a while back for doing just what you posted among other things to protect their birds so it's best not to say things like that on here so the bleedin' hearts can't tar all of us with the same brush.Personally,I don't think that approach is right because everyone can't do that so it makes for an unfair playing field,plus,you'll never stay ahead of the SOB BOP.Fly around 'em.
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Kel.
Rum-30 Lofts
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Lipper
67 posts
Nov 16, 2008
9:59 AM
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Mike Trevis
The Bigger the Dream the Bigger the Leap
Wow..I just got done reading all of this stuff about BOP's. There is no way in my opinion these guys could catch that many BOP..I am glad I live in the flat farming area I do, the only trees for miles are in your own yard. In the 80's in Minnesota, I would get an occasional problem BOP, once had a pergrine hit my breeders flypen and kill itself. This bird had a band on it, and I think it was part of some program they had in the cities. I have had folks with the Iowa DNR tell me that they are playing havoc with pheasants and song birds. Maybe you guys will get some help with controlling BOP numbers before to long...I did have a pair of sparrow hawks that nested in the eaves of my house a couple of years ago, that were grabbing golfinches off my bird feeders. I put a plastic owl by where they were nesting, and they left. I did not realize how big this problem has become......
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Windjammer Loft
500 posts
Nov 16, 2008
10:08 AM
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Mike............years ago we didn't have such a problem.
But with all the bleeding hearts out their and the endangered species enforcement. All brought on by us screwing with the circle of life. Not allowing the natural preditors to do their thing.
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Fly High and Roll On
Paul
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brudahpete
162 posts
Nov 16, 2008
10:12 AM
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Occasionally, we have a cooper problem, now we have peregrines in the area, damn it! Coopers are a lot more cunning and fly below the radar. They're persistent buggers too. In late winter & early spring I get harassed by bald eagles once in a while as well. I lost my prize hen to an eagle four years ago. I didn't think that eagles would come after pigeons. I'm glad that the golden eagles in our area stay away from town because I'm sure they would be hell to put up with! I can't imagine how anyone could keep at this hobby in So. Cal with all of the BOP out there. Hats off to you guys over there!
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TheGame
311 posts
Nov 16, 2008
10:25 AM
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Just let the BOP's be... it's all about survival of the fittest and part of the food chain.
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quality
38 posts
Nov 16, 2008
11:59 AM
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I did not know either, it will never happen again. I totally apologize.
Yours in the Hobby
Don Lunau
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RodSD
41 posts
Nov 16, 2008
6:38 PM
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Hawks are not endangered species anymore. In fact their population had increased beyond what scientists expected. They are nevertheless protected species. Here in California we feed those BOP with our pigeons (involuntarily!). I think the government should thanks us for helping these birds to survive extinction. In fact today I saw this really fat hawk. I thank my opportunity again to look at the sky (scan) that I didn't release my birds today when I had planned it.
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
2913 posts
Nov 17, 2008
7:31 AM
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Glad we were able to help get you up to speed, save a few bop for the environment and save you some time and money. Could have been an expensive lesson. ;-)
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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Lipper
76 posts
Nov 17, 2008
8:42 AM
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Mike Trevis
The Bigger the Dream the Bigger the Leap
Yes indeed, I will work very hard for the environment..
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Square
570 posts
Nov 17, 2008
10:37 AM
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Here is the reality of it.. If They even catch wind of anything adverse to the B.O.P's they will investigate you,,, and Im talking heavy,,,,, I am always willing to give advise to the ''NEWCOMMER" LOL but just ideas can cost you!!!I promice you this....Ive' found so much support on this site as well as others ,, people help with feeding and rasing ideas for the NEWCOMMER...But I know for a fact that you wont get any help paying off a $25,000 dollar ticket...in fact you will possibly loose alot of relationships in thes sport,,, I speak from experince and il will asure you the the bro's in the $25,000 club will agree... Good luck.. be smart...
Square... A.K.A "Mr bright Idea..."
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