jnyce
381 posts
Nov 26, 2008
2:13 PM
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can some one tell me what color is this bird and if its a hen or a cock
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jerry t
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jnyce
382 posts
Nov 26, 2008
2:15 PM
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can some one tell me what color is this bird and if its a hen or a cock
i have tried to pair this bird up with to hens that i no for show and got noting then i put it together with i coc and nothing
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jerry t
Last Edited by on Nov 26, 2008 2:16 PM
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quickspin
944 posts
Nov 26, 2008
2:24 PM
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The color I don't know, If the bird is not old enough it will not be ready to breed.
Looks like a hen to me but by looking at them you are no 100% sure. Separate the bird in a cage by it self for 3 days. Then put a 2 year old cock and see the results.
I have never had any problem finding what gender they are when they are around 1 year old. Before then it's not wort breeding as it has not proof it self yet in the air.
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SALAS LOFT
I.C.R.C
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jnyce
383 posts
Nov 26, 2008
2:29 PM
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this bird has been flying for about 6 month and is showing real good qualities in the air good dept style and velocity . i just wanted to get a few rounds off of him due to my bop problem real good chance i might lose him
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jerry t
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THISROLL
133 posts
Nov 26, 2008
2:31 PM
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looks like a hen to me.. tell the real gender when you find out..
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rtwilliams
260 posts
Nov 26, 2008
2:37 PM
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It looks like a red check, badge with white flights to me. as far as sex, does it have any black tick marks in the tail feathers or or wings. If so Probally a cock,if not a could go either way.
Good luck
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RT Williams
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RXR Loft
338 posts
Nov 26, 2008
2:38 PM
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I say HEN
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RxR Loft
Roll'em if you got'em... cuz commies don't roll
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LIL RIC
138 posts
Nov 26, 2008
2:39 PM
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i give it a shot it looks like a ash red w/f badge. and it look like a hen. good luck.
lil ric
west side loft
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jnyce
385 posts
Nov 26, 2008
2:59 PM
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if it is a hen this is the cock i will mate her with
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jerry t
Last Edited by on Nov 26, 2008 2:59 PM
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Opinionated Blowhard
114 posts
Nov 26, 2008
3:18 PM
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Shes a dun lavender badge. Spread, ash-red, carrying bronze and possibly one gene for recessive red. Nice bird.
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jnyce
390 posts
Nov 26, 2008
10:31 PM
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thanks to all but i still dont know what color to lable this bird but i put a cock with her hopefully she is a hen or back to the drawing board
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jerry t
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donnie james
49 posts
Nov 27, 2008
9:31 PM
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jerry it looks like a hen and it looks liks red check mkd and give some time it should mate up a few months down the line ................donny jazmes
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jnyce
392 posts
Nov 28, 2008
4:37 AM
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so is it safe to say that it is a red check
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jerry t
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rottweiler
31 posts
Nov 28, 2008
4:58 AM
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looks like a red badge to me
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jnyce
393 posts
Nov 28, 2008
11:35 AM
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what makes a bird a badge
jerry t
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jnyce
400 posts
Dec 13, 2008
7:25 AM
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still need help with the color of this bird i have had a few friends ova and i have gotten all kinds of colors its a lil confusing to me
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jerry t
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Flipmode
313 posts
Dec 13, 2008
7:32 AM
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Its a Lavender Check WF Badge.... Cant tell you the sex by looking.
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mr.b.j
97 posts
Dec 13, 2008
7:40 AM
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if u got a open loft breeder cage put the bird in it an watch 2 see if the cocks go after it,if so its a hen if they dont 2 much bother it he a cock. i have bread birds 6 & 7 months old! another thing is the bird mite not be mature yet so u have 2 put it in a indivisual cage with another bird an let it sit, an it will mature faster!!!
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Edgar
518 posts
Dec 13, 2008
10:29 AM
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no jnyce its not a red check its a lavender badge white flights looks like a hen but cant be positive good luck with it. Edgar
"ROCKET LINE"
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jnyce
401 posts
Dec 13, 2008
10:50 AM
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it is a hen for sure just wasnt sure about the color of the bird
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jerry t
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jnyce
402 posts
Dec 13, 2008
5:17 PM
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thanks you guys it was becoming a pain not knowing but i have one more question what makes it a lavender badge ????? is this considered a hard colorand if bred with a all black what would it produce also if it was mated to a red check what would it produce i know thats more then one question lol....
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jerry t
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wishiwon2
107 posts
Dec 15, 2008
11:21 AM
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Jerry,
Badges are rollers with white markings about thier head, but not baldheaded. It is an expression of a pied gene. Lavender is spread factor on ash red, just as black is spread on blue/black. Spread is a factor that "spreads" the base color over the whole bird. On a blue/black it makes it black on ash red it makes it a slate grey "ashy" color. Spread covers pattern; check, bars or barless. Ash red and blue/black are both considered "hard colors".
I think Thom is close on the color of your bird. A ash red based bird, with spread and perhaps a single factor of recessive red or bronzing. Dun is a genetic term meaning the dilute form of blue/black. Many roller guys use it as a descriptive term because it appears a similar color as 'dun'. I dont think your bird is genetically dun.
As for the results of the mating; it depends on the homozygosity of each parent, or whether they carry 1 or 2 genes for spread. You will definately have the potential for blacks and lavenders with and without white flights and badge markings. You may get some patterned birds checks or bars in both ashred and blue/black. Some may show bronze as well. It is also a sex linked mating meaning the male offspring should be ash base with black tics in flights and/or tail. Any ash based hen offspring will not be ticked.
There are lots of good websites that describe and define genetic terms and colors for pigeons and describe potential outcome of matings. Search "pigeon color genetics for fanciers"
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Jon
"had fun, wish i won 2"
If it were easy, everybody would do it ...
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brudahpete
335 posts
Dec 15, 2008
11:39 AM
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Thanks for the info Jon, I kinda wing it I hope that the color I want comes up. BTW, I'll get the bellnecks somewhere around the 1st f January.
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jnyce
403 posts
Dec 15, 2008
1:48 PM
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thanks jon you have been a great help
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jerry t
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