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silent187
232 posts
Dec 08, 2008
5:05 PM
i have had two birds both serperate time that i accidently pulled their whole tail feathers off... and both times these birds would roll maybe 5 feet at most and then after the tail was gone i noticed that they start rolling to like 15 feet but they loose a lil control could this be just luck that they roll more or is it that losing the tail makes them roll more???

p.s. these birds r just bait so that my youngsters dont get eaten... these should be culls but maybe the bop will eat these culls instead
silver tail
654 posts
Dec 08, 2008
5:37 PM
Silent the tail is your birds breaks so its not luck they roll deeper they can't stop.
kopetsa
2490 posts
Dec 08, 2008
5:40 PM
Wowo those cull birds sure serve a good purpose.. :(

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Andrew Carmichael
AB Canada
PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
2104 posts
Dec 08, 2008
6:00 PM
I always plug my birds tail sometimes all of it and they still have control I don't see any difference on my birds and they stop fine silver..
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Ralph
silent187
234 posts
Dec 08, 2008
8:21 PM
i guess
mr.b.j
93 posts
Dec 08, 2008
8:58 PM
WITH OUT THE TAIL THEY HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THE FLIP THEY CANT STOP IT. I HAVE A SQUOB THAT WAS ROLLIN LIKE 3 & 4 FLIPS @ A TIME, BUT I PLUCKED THE HOLE TAIL FEATHERS, AN 1 DAY SHE WENT UP BOUT 300 FT IN THE AIR,ROLLED ALL THE WAY DOWN AN COULDNT COME OUT OF IT!
BUT SHE LIVE SHE LANDED ON TOP MY DOG HOUSE.
THAT BIRD AINT BEEN RITE SINCE...THAT WAS MONTH 1/2 AGO. SHE DOING BETTER BUT SHE HAVING PROBLEMS WALKING,BUT SHE WALKING BETTER! I KEEP HER ALONE.
silent187
235 posts
Dec 08, 2008
9:13 PM
so probaly tail makes them lose control then thats why im getting more roll
fresnobirdman
279 posts
Dec 08, 2008
9:27 PM
they might of gotten into their roll wen you pulled their tail off.
jmo.


~~Fresnobirdman~~
PAUL R.
19 posts
Dec 08, 2008
9:48 PM
Silent187, If you are flying right now you will not get the most out of your birds. The falcon will clean you up in the area. Birds need time and some knowledge of how to prepare your birds for kitting and then to pick out the best ones out of your kits to form 1 Kit. Then, you will observe them as they begin to work as a "Team" . Now, thats alot of homework that you will have to figure out on your own or from someone that is willing to assist you in that department. Its not as easy as talking or writing about it. It takes time to learn your birds and what to do to get the best performance from them. Perhaps too much feed and not enough fly time, etc,etc.
Best advise would be for you to breed enough birds to fly in March of 2009. Thats when I will be testing the sky here in Rialto, Ca once again and see if the falcon has left the area.

Paul R.
RCRC
silent187
236 posts
Dec 09, 2008
11:07 AM
yeah thats true paul but these r birds im flying for my uncle he said its kool if he loses any their only 7..... and they were the same family i had before.. but right now i am breeding paul got 2 pairs sitting right now hopefully ill get more soon.... how r ur birds???
PAUL R.
20 posts
Dec 09, 2008
7:27 PM
GETTING THE BIRDS READY FOR BREEDING SEASON.

PAUL R.
silver tail
656 posts
Dec 09, 2008
8:10 PM
Silent hold off and hold those 7 till fly season you don't have very many birds so hold them so you don't have to keep starting over.

Hey Paul R can't wait till fly time the BOP here are off the hook I have never seen this many falcons hunt so low had one come up my drive way yesturday lower then the house trying to get the birds that were landing crazy the even chase the wild birds around the metro train.

Last Edited by on Dec 09, 2008 8:10 PM
PAUL R.
23 posts
Dec 09, 2008
9:14 PM
SILVER TAIL,

THAT IS A BIT OF AN EXTREME FOR THESE FALCONS, HOPEFULLY PRETTY SOON THEY WILL TURN ON EACH OTHER. LOL
WITH SO MANY OF THEM BEING BRED AND BEING LEFT ALONE NOW AFTER WHAT HAPPEN IN 2007. THEY ARE JUST NOT ENOUGH FOOD FOR THEM. IM MEAN ROLLERS FOR THEM TO GO AROUND.

PAUL R.
silver tail
658 posts
Dec 10, 2008
8:33 AM
Paul i agree they will start fighting each other over turf soon there are to many
wishiwon2
105 posts
Dec 10, 2008
11:30 AM
Thier tail is not the brakes. It is a rudder (steering wheel). The possesion or lack of a tail has very little to do with a birds control of the roll, neither frequency nor depth. Control of the roll is primarily a mental aspect, it is affected by thier physical condition (fitness), but not by the abscence of particular feathers.


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Jon Farr

If it were easy, everybody would do it ...
J_Star
1803 posts
Dec 10, 2008
12:33 PM
You guys continue on providing a lunch menu to them BOP and then wonder why in the world they are becoming resident in your neighborhood.

Jay

Last Edited by on Dec 10, 2008 12:34 PM
silent187
238 posts
Dec 10, 2008
2:48 PM
heck no i havent had no falcons at all nothing has tried to eat my birds maybe its cause they havent seen where i keep my birds or cause i always scare them off with a lil click click bang bang


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