cv rollers
163 posts
Dec 10, 2008
3:34 PM
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dumb question !can someone tell me the difference between fireballs & rollers(birgmingham rollers)i notice the fireball site and wondered what they are?????
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Longroller
GOLD MEMBER
79 posts
Dec 10, 2008
4:10 PM
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Well here goes..Their Whittingham blood is from Birmingham area of England..Imported from 1897-early 1900's by McAree of Toronto Canada, Casperson of R.I. USA, and others. Rev. James Graham lived next to McAree in Canada; they worked the Whittinghams (named after the man in England who sold the family of birds to McAree and others). McAree died, Graham took 20 pair (the best he said) to the U.S. as he was pastoring a new church. In his bunch, was a red mottle (broach) cock he named Fireball. Fireball got lost shortly thereafter..the family of birds that Graham had were called the Fireball Family..Whittingham blood. They fly differently than your comp. bird..generally longer cast..fly longer, and often roll deeper but also less frequency at times. All these discriptions vary. Three or four fanciers in the U.S. are "hard core" Fireball breeders and flyers and they keep the familys clean and have built up some good birds. As a whole, they are a late maturing family and stable. 1-2% rolldowns. Hope this helps..it is a thumbnail sketch of a great family of birds.
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cv rollers
164 posts
Dec 10, 2008
4:37 PM
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thanks ,so they are not birmingham rollers???
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fresnobirdman
285 posts
Dec 10, 2008
4:39 PM
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ask fireball916
he should tell you what you wanna know,
~~Fresnobirdman~~
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Longroller
GOLD MEMBER
81 posts
Dec 10, 2008
5:19 PM
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Birmingham rollers originated in Birmingham England. Whittingham lived there as well as Pensom did much later. Both got there birds from that piece of geography. Whittinghams have been around since about 1860..Joe Quinn's books (2 in the set) "Search for the Fabulous Whittinghams".
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cv rollers
165 posts
Dec 10, 2008
6:13 PM
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ok thank u
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rottweiler
63 posts
Dec 11, 2008
2:40 PM
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birmingham rollers are a breed of pigeon
fireball pensom bob brown bill barret are all familys of birmingham roller pigeon breed by indaviduals thats all nothing more nothing less
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cv rollers
170 posts
Dec 11, 2008
3:06 PM
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so why a different site 4 fireballs?????????on this site????????????
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rottweiler
64 posts
Dec 11, 2008
3:12 PM
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peaple cashing in probably
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Longroller
GOLD MEMBER
82 posts
Dec 11, 2008
5:01 PM
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CV and Rottweiler..do a little history digging..these are not, I repeat not, comp. birds..most guys do not keep them except for some personal enjoyment, but are a favorite of the backyard flyer. Whole different breed of cat..but still a strong roller. Aprox. 4 years ago to the month, I personally started the recent upsurge of the Fireball family. I started it on this site, Tony can verify it. After 4 years, this grand old family has made a strong recovery due to places like this site that give space for folks that like to breed this type of bird. I am appreciative of this site for allowing the resurrgance of this family. I have personally raised this family since 1957, and resurrected it in the past 10 years with some original blood. At present I have two familys of Fireball birds and four familys of Whittinghams. If you have any questions, perhaps you will feel free to contact me, and I can help. I do not have all the answers, but more than most. rkandbk1@yahoo.com or 509-786-4097. This is not an advertisment to sell birds, but simply to impart some information to you gentlemen that have questions. Thank you for reading...Bruce Kuhlman
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fontanabound
18 posts
Dec 11, 2008
5:23 PM
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to hell wit fireballs who cares!!!!!!! i got a BR thats dam sure a fireball......
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fontanabound
19 posts
Dec 11, 2008
5:25 PM
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ROTTI, YOU IN SOUTHERN CA, I NEED A DOG!
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Longroller
GOLD MEMBER
83 posts
Dec 11, 2008
7:04 PM
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Folks, the question at the top was asked, and deserved and answer. That is what this site is all about. CV..I trust your questions were answered.
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pat66
244 posts
Dec 12, 2008
3:40 AM
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Fontanabound,
If you have a BR thats a fireball, I would cull it because its no good for comp and not a real fireball!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Pat
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cv rollers
172 posts
Dec 12, 2008
11:13 AM
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Longroller yes and thank u, never did understand until now i would one day love to see these fireballs preform ,sounds like the are a sight to see..JMO!!! so far a back yard flyer so i can understand why the comp guys dont like them,to each there own!!!!!!!
windjammer, i did but u have to pay to post, now that i now what they are i would like to get some for my personal enjoyment!!!!!!
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cv rollers
174 posts
Dec 12, 2008
11:59 AM
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no thanks,personally why would i want another site !!!!!!
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