max loft
15 posts
Dec 18, 2008
12:11 AM
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What do u guys think bout wired floorings on cages or wood floorings?? I believe both have there benefits wired floorings keep the birds cleaner but tend to cause respiratory problems do to the large air income, and wood floorings pose a great nest for bacteria??idk wat ya think??
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rottweiler
81 posts
Dec 18, 2008
7:27 AM
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wire in a kit box every time
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Rob408
28 posts
Dec 18, 2008
7:29 AM
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I have a kit box that has wire flooring. There is a tray underneath to catch the droppings and prevents any type of draft coming from the bottom. I put vent holes on the doors and use wire mesh as part of the door to assist with more ventilation.
I'm having a loft made with expanded metal floor, again with a tray underneath.
Hope that helps.
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J_Star
1808 posts
Dec 18, 2008
8:44 AM
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Wired flooring will invite rodents and you will never be able to get rid of them. If you've never seen rats you will see them then. They will create havoc in your operation with some incurable diseases.
Respiratory problem is not an issue at all. Pigeons live under bridges where the air circulates without causing them problems.
Jay
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Alohazona
518 posts
Dec 18, 2008
9:15 AM
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Jays right,
When rats come into play you will have alot of heartache,for sure.Where there are pigeons kept,the rats will come.When designing your loft,make it RODENT PROOF.It might cost a little more initially,but it will pay dividends in the long run,keeping things healthy.When you see signs of rat,and they leave lots of signs of their presence,do not hesitate in exterminating them.Rodents leave urine trails,and crap and urinate constantly.Once you exterminate one round,the trails left in place will invite neighboring rats to take residence or at the very least nightly visits.I once saw a rat run up the side of a two-story house with no clear path,it was in a blink of an eye,the tail was the only clear marker.Consult a senior extermination expert,I did,man it was an awakening,the lofts are comming down....Aloha,Todd
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quality
59 posts
Dec 18, 2008
9:53 AM
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When building a loft, never have false walls. That means no insulation. Paint it white inside, keep it nice & bright. bulid it well enough off the ground to deter rodents from moving in underneath.
Pigeons cannot live where mice & rats live, mouse feces is toxic to the birds. It will kill them very fast.
Coons & Possum are your worst nightmare. They can tear through most surfaces quite quickly. Use good heavy 16 ga. or heavier around your whole coop, for windows as well.
I perfer a 1 way slanted roof, so I can see all the birds who are on the roof at any given time.
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Yours in the Hobby
Don Lunau
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quality
60 posts
Dec 18, 2008
9:53 AM
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When building a loft, never have false walls. That means no insulation. Paint it white inside, keep it nice & bright. bulid it well enough off the ground to deter rodents from moving in underneath.
Pigeons cannot live where mice & rats live, mouse feces is toxic to the birds. It will kill them very fast.
Coons & Possum are your worst nightmare. They can tear through most surfaces quite quickly. Use good heavy 16 ga. or heavier around your whole coop, for windows as well.
I perfer a 1 way slanted roof, so I can see all the birds who are on the roof at any given time.
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Yours in the Hobby
Don Lunau
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Rob408
30 posts
Dec 18, 2008
10:06 AM
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Yes, make sure that if you use wire floors that it is rodent proof. I had to do this when building my kit box and it is a blessing. There is no entry way for even the smallest vermin.
Also, I have a rabbit roaming my back year which eats any feed that spill onto the ground. They also keep little rodents away.
No problems with possums or raccoons in my area.
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max loft
18 posts
Dec 18, 2008
10:37 AM
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Well yea both wooding and wiring are good but imma stick with wood floors I raced my birds like tht and flown very good jus wondering bout wired flooring becus I believe kit cages aren't as bigg as my homer loft so wired flooring will keep the cage clean when there's sixteen birds in a small cage but planning must be done. Respiratory problem truly affects the birds you gotta understtand tht comens under a bridge are not competition birds as to speak with homers tht have to fly 8 hours on the wing non stop there lungs have to be strong and developed so tht they can make the trip.idk if with rollers its diefferent im new to the hobby. it does affect there general health as too sneezing lack of excercise, panting, which later leads to canker in severe cases. Im no vet or anything but have an opinion on tht. but wired flooring is a great idea if there's no air coming in from under the cage.it keeps clean birds.
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nicksiders
3196 posts
Dec 18, 2008
10:46 AM
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Wire flooring of less than one inch to keep the rodents and other intruders out. Quarter inch fabtic does great; keeps the intruders out and lets the poop out. Bigger than that will only let the poop out, but it will let the intruders in.
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Just My Take On Things
Nick Siders
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Velo99
1986 posts
Dec 18, 2008
11:15 AM
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Heres something I considered when I was building my last kitbox. I used 1/2 by 1/2 wire to keep out the critters. It works well enough that it is almost maintenance free. IF your intention when using wire the keep the birds off the floor, build a frame two inches deep and put some 1 1/2 x 1 1/2 wire on it. Then set in down on the floor of your kitbox. Take it out for feeding replace it after. I never did it so I dont know how well it would work.
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Windjammer Loft
607 posts
Dec 20, 2008
8:10 AM
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max loft...Kitboxes and outside flight cages, wire floors are a must.. Nest boxes, its a toss up between solid or wire floors. It's just a personel preference.. Must lofts have solid floors. It depends on what part of the country you live in too...
Use what fits your environment....
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Fly High and Roll On
Paul
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norlan hollingate
1276 posts
Dec 20, 2008
8:53 AM
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i cant understand how u lads talk about rats or respatory
problems all these are self inflicted if u cant build a loft or kit box with a wire floor and a tray to collect the droppings that is well ventilated and is rat proof
then pay someone who can it aint hard
NORMAN THE PROFESSIONAL KIT BOX BUILDER
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sundance
935 posts
Dec 20, 2008
11:22 AM
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Well said Norman,
I have 1x1 wire in most of my kit boxs, and wood floors in my loft. I also have my loft up off the ground with 3 sides closed of with wire and some lattice panels.
Behind the loft and kits I have my Bantie/Phoenix chickens and they have full access under the kitboxs and the loft. They keep it clean so varmits dont have a reason to be there in the first place. Also Ive seen the roosters kill a rat when I had them in a different location so they are kinda like insurance and a cleaning service all in one.
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Sundance Roller Lofts
Last Edited by on Dec 20, 2008 11:29 AM
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Square
630 posts
Dec 20, 2008
11:40 AM
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Dosent really matter to me i have used the two and They boath work. Depending on the size and make up of the wire can sometimes allow for birds to get their feet snached trough the wire, or acess for the rat's. Reguardless I use the garden powder, Lye powder, pultry powder, on the surface reguardless if it's the tray or the bare floor. This stuff dosent let any bugs develope and keeps the rodents in check. Like someone mentioned before it's all in the design, just alittle pre thought will save you alot of heart ake...
Square.
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