Lipper
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85 posts
Dec 22, 2008
7:29 AM
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Mike Trevis
The Bigger the Dream the Bigger the Leap
Is there currently a fund or organized effort to protect pigeon fanciers from communities outlawing them?
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Electric-man
2204 posts
Dec 22, 2008
8:30 AM
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Not that I have ever heard of! Wished there were, I have a close friend that lives in one of these communities. Kinda scary to see years of work being stripped away from you just cause a jerk moves in next door!
I would donate!
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Val
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Lipper
GOLD MEMBER
86 posts
Dec 22, 2008
9:59 AM
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Mike Trevis
The Bigger the Dream the Bigger the Leap
We have a fund like this in the hound community. I would be willing to help get something started along the lines of an all breed defense fund...I have read ads of guys selling out due to this type of thing and became concerned. This would be a very good chance for all the clubs to organize, educate, and get legal support.
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cv rollers
193 posts
Dec 22, 2008
10:03 AM
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I would support something like this,to help out and educate people.
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Lipper
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87 posts
Dec 22, 2008
10:54 AM
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Mike Trevis
The Bigger the Dream the Bigger the Leap
I know a guy with UKC, I will get some info. from him and we will see what we can accomplish..
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Lipper
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88 posts
Dec 22, 2008
2:10 PM
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Mike Trevis
The Bigger the Dream the Bigger the Leap
I pm'd Todd Kellum at the United Kennel Club, he has not gotten back to me yet. When he does I will post his recomendations.
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norlan hollingate
1314 posts
Dec 22, 2008
2:16 PM
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sorry to here that lads
we dont realy have that problem in the uk but we have to work within the planning law some times i think in the uk we would most probibully get the complaining moaning neighbour to move that sounds better
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sundance
952 posts
Dec 22, 2008
4:58 PM
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I like the way you think over there Norman. We had a neighbor here a few years ago that didnt quite fit in... Someone shot up his house in the night. He moved the next day.
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Butch @
Sundance Roller Lofts
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norlan hollingate
1320 posts
Dec 23, 2008
8:15 AM
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ha ha ha thats the way butch
good on ya
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Lipper
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90 posts
Dec 23, 2008
8:49 AM
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Mike Trevis
The Bigger the Dream the Bigger the Leap
Todd just got back to me, I will follow up with Sara and get back here with replies.
Re: Defense Funds
Hey Mike - You need to email our legislative expert. Her name is Sara. She'll be glad to help you. Her address is:
schisnell-voigt@ukcdogs.com
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Mike Trevis wrote on 12-22-2008 07:40 PM:
Todd,
I was hoping you could lead me to some help in protecting the rights of pigeon owners. I have had quite a few calls about citties outlawing the keeping of domestic pigeons. This is an excellent hobby for intercity kids and adults a like. Any info. you might have would be greatly appreciated, as you know the loss of rights to own any animal will hurt all of us.
Regards,
Mike Trevis
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Lipper
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91 posts
Dec 23, 2008
11:16 AM
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Mike Trevis
The Bigger the Dream the Bigger the Leap
Hey Mike - I think they got Sara bogged down with some other stuff right now. It would seem like a logical first step to contact all the pigeon organizations for their help with this matter. Much the same way that our dog clubs all around the country call on us to help them. I'm not sure if there are pigeon registries or what but certainly there are organizations that oversee the different events that you mention below. It would seem as though they would have a special interest in seeing that sport survive. They most likely already have a network in place to make contacts at whichever level is appropriate for different situations.
Other than that my only advice would be to reference the back issues CB to learn different strategies from the sections on how to go about protecting your dog ownership rights or rights to hunt, etc. I would have to guess that the same strategies apply regardless of what interest you are trying to protect. Admittedly this topic is not my strong suit. I understand your concern for your sport and respect the fact that you are wanting to put out the effort to help get something done.
Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance. I do wish you luck with this project in '09
Merry Christmas,
Todd
Sara,
Todd Kellum gave me your email addy..We are having a little problem and really need your help. I don't know how familiar you are with the sport of pigeon raising, but it is very large here in the states, just like our coonhounds..Pigeons are flown in races, others are able to acrobatically perform in the air, and are judged..Many others are of different sizes, shapes, colors, etc. and are shown..
The problem now is that communities have started outlawing the keeping pigeons. Pigeons have been kept and raised in cities for a very long time, by people of all walks of life. In the intercity they have been a source of enjoyment for our youth, keeping them occupied and out of trouble. Now due to the very few uneducated neighbors complaining, some cities have began outlawing them. We went through our own problems with antis in the hound world.
Sara we need to take the same actions with pigeons that was taken with hounds. Any help you could give us would greatly be appreciated, i.e.. how to pull all clubs together in unity etc. As I am sure you are quite aware we all need to band together for the strength needed to protect our heritage.
Respectfully,
Mike Trevis
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spinningdemon
125 posts
Dec 23, 2008
7:28 PM
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I was grandfathered in to keep animals in south jordan utah, but any one moving in could not. I moved any way because the presure was a pain in the but. One neighbor got a ticket for continually calling animal control on me and wasting the officers time.
A bird pooped on his roof and he came over all bent out of shape. I told him I did not fly my birds today but there are thousands of magpies around and he should call there owner.
Any way I moved to the country and only the racoons bug me.
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David Curneal
Performance breeds since 1973
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belle
310 posts
Dec 24, 2008
6:51 PM
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electric-man, if your friend had his birds befor the law was made then his birds would be grandfathered in, he can breed more birds but he can mot buy more new birds. People keep running in to that around the charlotte area the city keeps growing and people don't like the smell of a farm, and a lot of small towns keep making new rules.
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Justin
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norlan hollingate
1330 posts
Dec 25, 2008
1:24 PM
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sounds like u lads got it bad feel for u
tell them about the dvd blue skys were the bad kids were alowed so help with the birds if good n not if bad they found it stoped them being bad
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sundance
968 posts
Dec 25, 2008
2:07 PM
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Thats a great movie, Norlan. I`ve loaned it it a lot of people. One friend had it for 3 or 4 months. He said his young daughter just kept watching it over and over. I told him to keep it as long as she wanted it. I hope it made a lasting impression on her.
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Butch @
Sundance Roller Lofts
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