Alohazona
529 posts
Dec 31, 2008
6:53 PM
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Just banded some squeeks yesterday.I noticed today an absence of quills,in big patches,and a little blood on both squeeks.The hen seems to be the most aggressive of the two,but I wasn't around to see what took place.The feed bowl was completely empty,although I filled it this morning.That kind of absence of feather can really put squeeks at an early disadvantage.Does anyone have any input about this...Aloha,Todd
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THISROLL
339 posts
Dec 31, 2008
7:39 PM
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thats right rats or mice.. once they taste blood they will find a way to get some! this happen to me..first i thought its no big deal but then they got in and ate the birds between the night..
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xueher
66 posts
Dec 31, 2008
8:06 PM
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yupp..seen it before. If they are hungry enough they will seen rats eat rats dont know why they wont eat pigeons. lol.
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cv rollers
208 posts
Dec 31, 2008
8:14 PM
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buy some poison pellets at ur feed store ,the little packets of green pellets they will wipe out the whole pack of critters just make sure ur birds can't eat them ..good luck
Last Edited by on Dec 31, 2008 8:15 PM
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Alohazona
530 posts
Dec 31, 2008
10:03 PM
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Actually,this is an individual cage and is extremely rodent proof.When George first posted his theory,I went out to check the cage for any such points of entry,and there was none.So I pulled the poop tray to look for any evidence, and also the nest with the babies in it.So theres nothing to support the rodent theory.Now you have to look at the parents,the hen is extremely overprotective and sensitive and I am putting that mildly.She has a jab like a homer,and is in the middle of the highest point of pumping the babies,basically a voracious appetite.When I pulled out the poop tray,I could see the quills that had been plucked,and there were many of them,the paper on the tray had all the quills scattered were she enters the nest.Other than this incident this hen is outstanding in every way,the type of hen that every body can't take their eyes off her.I named her "FOREST FIRE" red check w/f grouse bred by Don Norwood...Aloha,Todd
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cv rollers
209 posts
Dec 31, 2008
11:17 PM
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i also had a hen beating the crap out of a squab ,i pulled it out and hand fed it pea's ,it made it. it was 14-16 day old u could foster it if its to young..might work,good luck
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Velo99
2016 posts
Jan 01, 2009
6:15 AM
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I have had hens pluck the feathers from the backs of the squeakers. Dont know why.
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gotspin7
2171 posts
Jan 01, 2009
7:38 AM
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Todd, I had a hen do that years ago...lol. I forgot I fixed it. Steve do you remember? I ended up culling her anyway after I fixed her, well I guess I really fixed her..LOL.Good luck bro.
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Sal Ortiz
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RUDY..ZUPPPPP
GOLD MEMBER
2412 posts
Jan 01, 2009
7:52 AM
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I never had a problem Yet....but if i do is a dead bird......
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Leo
Member
72 posts
Jan 01, 2009
8:16 AM
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GUYS, a little vaseline with a light touch of vicks mixed in it,lightly rub on your youngsters back and ..no mice!..parents have stopped!..No need to cull parents sometimes its a lack of minerals they are looking for.....LEO
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Leo
Member
73 posts
Jan 01, 2009
8:26 AM
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P.S. sometimes other birds will fight,in that nest causing scratches and cuts on youngsters,nervousness will cause parents to pick, so dont be so hard on your birds ,,its up to you THE MASTER! to be good enough to figure it out.Most of the time the parents are just fine the next go round!..so be a MASTER BREEDER!...LEO
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Alohazona
532 posts
Jan 01, 2009
2:57 PM
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Gnats!!it was dirty stinkin Gnats!The squeakers had wet droppings inviting Gnats,plenny of um'.They were covering the squeaks,the mom was probably trying to get them off her babies.We have had a lot of rain lately,and alot of gnats as a result.At least it hasn't been mosquitoes,they can reek havoc on your breeding season with pox.Cleaned out the nest with new bedding,and put an extra feed and grit bowl in with them just in case she was nutrionally frustrated.Thanks guys for your input!
Leo,I hear ya,we put a lot of energy into flying and feeding the birds.Breeding birds that love to roll would take alot of effort out of flying and feeding unknowns.Birds that are bred[easily,happily,harmoniously]is what I strive for.It all starts in the breeding pen....Aloha,Todd
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kopetsa
2672 posts
Jan 01, 2009
4:43 PM
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wow the whole place is gonna have to be screened..
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Andrew Carmichael
AB Canada
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fresnobirdman
359 posts
Jan 01, 2009
5:09 PM
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hay kopes,
got your logo huh,,,
nice!
~~Fresnobirdman~~
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Leo
Member
74 posts
Jan 02, 2009
8:17 AM
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Guys, get a pinch of 'flower of sulfer'and put it in the grit can this will stop the mosquitoe from biting the birds..thus NO POX! ....LEO
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Leo
Member
75 posts
Jan 02, 2009
8:21 AM
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P.S. use this for a while, it gets in the pigeons blood and the gnats and or mice will move on also..LEO.
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c robbo
370 posts
Jan 02, 2009
8:27 AM
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has a nother cock got in its cage and done it in.
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Lipper
GOLD MEMBER
118 posts
Jan 02, 2009
8:54 AM
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Mike Trevis
The Bigger the Dream the Bigger the Leap
When I have a problem like this or one squab a little smaller. I switch them with other squabs or just move the one getting picked to another pair.
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Leo
Member
76 posts
Jan 02, 2009
1:56 PM
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IF,its the parents!,,do they get new squabs to start the problem all over again,if you swich them???? will they continue this habit on their next round???,,,,I was trying to solve several problems all at one time,as well as suggesting other problems that may be causing this action,You would have to keep Very close track of these youngsters IF you have good birds to keep track of at banding time,unless you have a better way of identifing them,I would forget which was which at banding time....LOL...LEO
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Snake Doctor
351 posts
Jan 02, 2009
2:47 PM
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I have had a problem similar to this with my Bantams, a little salt in their diet and some stuff called "Bitter Apple" a product Vets use to keep dogs from licking wounds will solve the problem.
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