DeepSpinLofts
1138 posts
Jan 01, 2009
12:55 AM
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BREEDING CHAMPION ROLLERS:
Step 1: Start with the best high velocity performing cock bird you can get.
Step 2: Pair it with a good spinning hen with stability; (preferably the same family).
Step 3: Produce many hens from this pair and fly them out
Step 4: Pick the best hen and pair it back to its father
Step 5: Repeat step 3-4-5
NOTE: Understand what a good Birmingham Roller is. Read as much data and archived notes regarding successful breeding programs of top breeders and flyers.
...also
It would be a good idea to invest in your own personal resource library of roller pigeon doctrines, analytic genetic research material and informative food/health books.
Marcus
Deep Spin Lofts
Last Edited by on Jan 01, 2009 2:02 AM
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roller alley
48 posts
Jan 01, 2009
10:06 AM
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ok. but what happens when you breed the best cock for a couple of rounds and before the squeeks mature the cock escapes and gets chaced off, and havent been able to breed back into the father,thats where i am now
my fastest cock was blurring out my fastest hen's speed was awsome, after he escaped i checked my paperwork and they were from the same father,different mothers.
in mating these two together im afraid i have produced their father not themselves.i have 5 squeeks from him from 3 diferent hens,only one is mature and rolls 30-40ft good speed and quality
i also have uncles from the grand father that have been stocked.the grandfather is long dead he did produce birds better than he was by a long shot,that is why i wouldnt want the grand father to be reproduced back
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ezeedad
903 posts
Jan 01, 2009
10:27 AM
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Roller,
In my opinion you should try to keep the blood as close as is possible within the remaining birds you like the best. Since the main cock and hen were half bro/sis, you could probably use any of his sons, maybe one of the uncles would work too... Use your best judgement in selecting the mate based not just on how they roll, but on how they handle..and their temperment, etc.
Sounds like the grandfather was a very good producer.
I would think that you should want him to be reproduced.
Paul G
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roller alley
49 posts
Jan 01, 2009
10:44 AM
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thank ezee
i have some planning to do.
i have mated the hen to her son from a different father to get more genetics to come her way they have laid their clutch 4 days ago.i might pump her some more if i can get some fostering
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Sunflower
118 posts
Jan 01, 2009
12:02 PM
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Marcus, I wish it was that easy. Might work some of the time. No guarantees in breeding these birds.
roller alley, I think you are on the right track with your program. Often it takes 3 or 4 years to realize how good a bird or a pair might really. Anybody who has been doing this for anytime has lost, sold or given away birds they wish they had back when they discovered their potential. I understand Pensom bredout of 514 for several years before he really understood what he had.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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ezeedad
904 posts
Jan 01, 2009
12:07 PM
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Roller,
So you are going 3/4 with the hen... Sounds good. Seems that you have time to wait on the sons of the one you lost, I guess. Just keep them close, I'd say, till you get real consistancy... and have fun...
Paul G
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roller alley
50 posts
Jan 01, 2009
12:59 PM
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thanks guys and happy new year to ya and yours
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roller alley
51 posts
Jan 01, 2009
2:11 PM
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mother son pairing
Last Edited by on Jan 01, 2009 4:31 PM
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DeepSpinLofts
1140 posts
Jan 01, 2009
5:37 PM
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Nice looking bluecheck you have there roller alley.
Marcus
Deep Spin Lofts
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roller alley
54 posts
Jan 01, 2009
5:58 PM
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shes been #1 hen since 06 been trying my dangdeset to dethrown her but hasnt happened.when she spins she has hard time pulling her neck straight,and sometimes spews water out in mid spin.plus dont forget the doughnut i need more like her
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rollernewbie
327 posts
Jan 01, 2009
6:47 PM
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great looking birds..also that method sounds good Marcus..i should try this in the future..seem to go well with u..
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RollerNewbie
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gotspin7
2177 posts
Jan 02, 2009
4:53 AM
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Marcus, only if it was that easy.LOL..
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Sal Ortiz
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DeepSpinLofts
1142 posts
Jan 04, 2009
2:21 AM
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Top Breeders/Flyers/Trainers in the World
1 Peter Handy - England
2 Peter Lyman - England
3 Don Ouellette - USA
4 Jerry Higgins - USA
5 Robert Parker - USA
6 Eric Laidler - Denmark
7 Tim Decker - USA
8 Keith London ICRC - USA
9 Jimmy Goetz - USA
10 Henk Nijman - Holland
11 Clay Hoyle - USA
12 Ferid Catak - Denmark Region
13 Brian McKenzie - South Africa Region 4
14 Kevin McKinney - Northern Ireland Region
15 Jim Taylor - South Africa Region 2
16 Nick Tsoltoudis - Australia East Coast Region
17 Trevor Weaver - North West England Region
18 Riaan Kruger - Region 1 South Africa
19 Jose Luis Lorenzo USA Southern California Region
20 Heine Bijker Holland
21 George Mason United Kingdom
{P.S.} The list above is for those of you who are only concerned about aerial performance (not plumage color).
....so
As a refresher to keep you on the right track in the bird game... it might be a good idea to acquaint yourself with some of the top breeders and flyers of roller pigeons around the world. Many of them are members of the National Birmingham Roller Club.
Marcus
DEEP Spin Lofts
Last Edited by on Jan 04, 2009 2:27 AM
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c robbo
373 posts
Jan 04, 2009
2:44 AM
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deep spin. i won the all england roller club with proplem birds i got of my brother. but i think most of the roller lads have the goods at the end of the day it all comes down to the flyer.
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topnotch uk
61 posts
Jan 04, 2009
12:05 PM
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the only man on the list i have seen good birds out ov the uk is the masons i was there when peter handy won the worldcup hummmmm the mason birds are the only birds that fly low and kit we have been all over england and seen the best a 100 times the best fly 2high and fly in lines like sea gulls thay mite roll faster but i can not stand high flying birds masons birds are bangon comp birds
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