rollingline33
144 posts
Jan 03, 2009
12:54 PM
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kopesta over the weekend i meet with a few roller men on this site and i also seen a few over the weekend!! and well all had a few words about you!! we came too the conclusion that you are one of the main reason this site is becoming or has become watt it is rite now!! borring and a bunch of other words we came up with!! but all you do is post up yellows and your main thing is color and we all agreed that you are one of the main ones that has turnd or has something too do with all this color pictures we have been here for a minute now!! and we have never seen so many newbies that have actd like you same type of questions answers and bird type!! i agree you pay the feed bill they are your birds but keep them away a little!! you know those yellows dont roll!! i know your young!! but thats not a good reason for you too take over the site with your color or you advertising campain on color or your supper pretty birds!! its been along tine that i dont see any of the old timers post or even visit and post good info!! your just like a little color pigeon google!! allot are really sick of it!! so i ask you to relax this new year let it bee an informative year too learn!! i want too hear more from the pros comp guys and let the newbies ask and listen and learn!! if your mad im sorry but its the truth!! and let me guess??? the first ones that will say something will be the pretty bird guys the ones that have pink bars and white bars ect and ice rollers lol!! watt is it kopesta 2700 post and they are allmost about something with your color projects never performance!! this is an example watt if i cross or mix a yellow and a dilute!! or light yellow and extra lihgt yellow.... and beeing 12 years old is not a good exuce kopesta!! lol im so sure kopesta must mean pretty yellow pigeion or some thing!!
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rollingline33
145 posts
Jan 03, 2009
1:02 PM
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kopetsa
2329 posts
Nov 26, 2008
11:59 AM First up, I Just Want To Say For Those Who Have a Problem With
Me and My Yellows, Close this Topic Now!
Some say there is a problem, like you will lose roll or get rolldowns; I have heard both.. (and those of you know who I am talking about.. lol) But I would like to hear everybody's opinion on this. For example If I breed a 30-40 dilute yellow to a 15 ft dilute, what do you 'think' I would get?
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Andrew C.
Home of the Yellows
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Sunflower
135 posts
Jan 03, 2009
1:05 PM
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A feathered hail stone!!
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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rollingline33
146 posts
Jan 03, 2009
1:06 PM
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this is another one of your post nothing good to improving the birminham roller!! just going backwords!!
Can anybody please show me a kit or an indigo..???
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THISROLL
350 posts
Jan 03, 2009
1:08 PM
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This is not fair, he can talk about whatever he wants to its a roller pigeon website..as long as its roller pigeon related. just because hes getting all the attention dont mean anything maybe you just need to try harder TO GET HALF OF THE ATTENTION HE GETS!!..right..i dont want to make enemies on this site but i read all these BS about people on this site..im sure hes not 12 years old.. more like 17 ...
If you haven't been on here much maybe you should go read NORM_KNOX'S thread about helping newbies in the sport.You are probaly one reason why NORM_KNOX posted that thread!
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rollingline33
147 posts
Jan 03, 2009
1:08 PM
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more questions on colors!! What was Neibel's reason for not breeding white?
my advise breed parekeets and love birds!!
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rollingline33
148 posts
Jan 03, 2009
1:22 PM
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I obviously know what it looks like because I have a whole tonne of them but where has this originated from in the Birmingham roller? How long has it been around for? What color is it, dilute red? How do people breed for it if they don't have any? Is it some kind of almond tone? another one of his sesame street yellows!!
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kopetsa
2689 posts
Jan 03, 2009
1:24 PM
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First up, I'm not 12. I just want to say that its the pr**** like you that ruin this site NOT ME. I am not stopping experienced breeders from posting good posts they just choose not to. And I will ask whatever the **** I want as long as I want to know something.. Wow am I ever famous you and your newbie friends are talking about me.. SWEET! ;) Who are you anyways? Maybe pay attention to all post, you would see A LOT were about performance.. I have never had a single problem with 'old timers' and the experienced roller men.
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kopetsa
2696 posts
Jan 03, 2009
1:36 PM
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Why do you care about color in the following post???????????????????
rollingline33
36 posts
Jul 28, 2008
10:34 PM is it ok to mate a blue check cock with a blue bar hen and watt will i get? will i get more blue bars? my hen was one of my best roller # years ago but i haven had a chance to get another blue bar out of my birds? how cud i get one like her shes the only blue bar in my breeders.
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Andrew Carmichael
AB Canada
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rollingline33
154 posts
Jan 03, 2009
1:47 PM
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not a rare color!! blue check blue bars!! hard color and soft colors dont want no stiffs!! nothing more!! performance!!
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jnyce
451 posts
Jan 03, 2009
1:52 PM
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i dont mean no harm but its a little baffling to me that you guys would waste a day out of your weekend to discuss your dislikes about kopetsa. it seems to me you may have a lil to much time on your hands. now im a newbie and i agree that when i first started on this forum alot have changed for the worst but there is alot still being learned . now your intitled to express your concerns put you didnt have to do this publicly you could have hit his private email and then had your say but it seemed like you wanted to humiliate him. which is not cool at all this is one of them meaningless post that" stoped the old timers from posting " this is one of your post simular to the ones your ripped on kopetsa about "color" is this meaningless or is that you had a queston that you didnt know the answer to ??????? NO DISRESPECT INTENDED---------
jerry t
Last Edited by on Jan 03, 2009 1:57 PM
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kopetsa
2697 posts
Jan 03, 2009
1:54 PM
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so rollingline, don't ask about the color if you JUST want performance, i dont care if it is a blue, it was a color question!
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Andrew Carmichael
AB Canada
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jnyce
452 posts
Jan 03, 2009
2:02 PM
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now andrew lets not be petty there are gonna be things said to u your whole life that u may not like but some time you have to turn the other cheek because its really not that important that you must respond in a negative why a simple your intitled to have an opinion would do
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jerry t
Last Edited by on Jan 03, 2009 2:09 PM
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Sunflower
136 posts
Jan 03, 2009
2:07 PM
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Gentlemen, before this goes any further and gets out of hand, CHILL OUT!!
Andrew, this is a roller forum, you have every right to ask any question you like if it pertains to rollers.
rollingline33, if you don't like posts that relate to color, don't read them. Are things really that slow in LA that you sit around discussing Andrew's post?
Just My Opinion
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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Scott
1390 posts
Jan 03, 2009
2:12 PM
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Lighten up on the kid, how many of us didn't start the same way as kids ?
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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Longroller
GOLD MEMBER
119 posts
Jan 03, 2009
2:24 PM
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rollingline33...I have a post for you at "Big Rob"
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De Oppresso Liber
Last Edited by on Jan 03, 2009 3:51 PM
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mario
GOLD MEMBER
298 posts
Jan 03, 2009
3:29 PM
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if somebody is not happy ....he doesn t have to read it ....i think the kid is very good and wants to learn....so it s the place to learn.........Mario
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kcfirl
538 posts
Jan 03, 2009
4:12 PM
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Scott,
did you just say to lighten up on someone? I knew there was a reason I read this post! LOL
Happy New Year Buddy
Firl
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Lipper
GOLD MEMBER
126 posts
Jan 03, 2009
4:21 PM
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Mike Trevis
The Bigger the Dream the Bigger the Leap
Big Rob,
If your going to slam someone have the B@lls to give your real name...And learn to spell and write...I got a headache trying to read your posts..
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155
936 posts
Jan 03, 2009
4:31 PM
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WHAT IS THIS SITE COMING TO A BUNCH A LITTLE GIRLS FIGHTING OVER SOME BULLSHIT THAT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER. I THINK IF YOU DON'T LIKE A CERIATIN TOPIC THEN JUST MOVE ON AND POST SOMETHING YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT INSTEAD OF BASHING THE ONES YOU DONT LIKE. WERE GROWN MEN IN HERE NOT SISSYS.
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EVILLOFT'S
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velocity1
42 posts
Jan 03, 2009
4:32 PM
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It says All Roller Talk Forum,not Performing Roller Talk forum.So let up on him if he likes PRETTY yellows so be it.I'm no color breeder but will not discourage anyone from doing what THEY like.It's a miracle you haven't been banned for your oponion yet.
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rollem
5 posts
Jan 03, 2009
4:36 PM
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Pour it on the old men Keopesta i have been breeding rollers for 38years and i have had good and bad rollers of every color cull what you want and keep what you want the colors iwant will vary from time to time. but a good roller no matter the color stays in my loft p.s. I believe the reason so much complaing alot of us oldtimers cant work the digital photo and get sach good site work
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Sourland
123 posts
Jan 03, 2009
4:38 PM
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Hey Big Rob, How about posting about your accomplishments instead of raining on someone else's parade. Guys like you without a clue are the problem not Andrew.
JMO Geo.
Last Edited by on Jan 03, 2009 4:39 PM
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
2264 posts
Jan 03, 2009
4:40 PM
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lol ken..
I agree with jnyce good post .you didn't have to do this, in private would be more appropriate ..sound like jealousy to me because if you knew all he post is color all you had to do was go to the next post ..and the only one that can complain is Tony ..
and I agree with Scott and if you know Scott he don't like color and he is not complaining..... imagine that ,,lol..is going to be a good year for you Scott ..cheers..
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Ralph
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Velo99
2025 posts
Jan 03, 2009
5:49 PM
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Rollingline33.
You have too many L`s in your name and I dont like it. I think you guys with L`s in your names shouldn`t post because it bothers me.
Also rollingline33,your typing skills and grammar are appalling. Did you graduate from kindergarten?
Wait! I can answer that for you in the negative. If you had you would know the first thing they teach you is to get along with others,milk and cookies are good and YELLOW AINT A RARE COLOR! It is red. Get your facts straight before you open your mouth there pal.
You`re gonna come on here with your puny little 144 posts and try to run the board? What a joke.
Maybe you should follow the consensus and take your own advice.
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V99
blue sky single beat
in cadance performing now
earth beckons the winged
drawn breath is let quickly forth
orchestral movement follows
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bigwilly
780 posts
Jan 03, 2009
6:10 PM
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Hey Guys. If I mate a Parlor to a BR will I get the frequency?
Just joking.
BIG WILLY
TOPP FLIGHT/NCRC
Last Edited by on Jan 03, 2009 6:11 PM
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Sunflower
137 posts
Jan 03, 2009
6:10 PM
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Nice one Kenny, don't like ls huh, glad I only got one in my name.
Andrew, You are obviously a young man with an intense interest in the hobby. Color seems to be high on your preferences and thats okay. I might recommend a couple of websites that provide a good discussion of color genetics. Ron Huntley's rare color site
http://www.angelfire.com/ga/huntleyloft/Page1.html
and Frank Mosca's site http://www.angelfire.com/ga3/pigeongenetics/
Also study some of the work done by Dr. W.F. Hollander and Joe Quinn.
Dr Hollander addresses the gene "ro" which he describes as the genetic propensity to roll. The reason it is lowercase ro instead of uppercase RO is because the gene is recessive. Since it is recessive it is real easy to breed away from the ro gene while breeding for other traits such as color, feather, etc.
That has happened in the past and the oldtimers will tell you it is harder to breed the roll in than it is to breed it out. Good Luck in your quest for further knowledge about these crazy birds.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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Sunflower
138 posts
Jan 03, 2009
6:12 PM
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Hey bigwilly, probably be as frequent as the number of times it can bounce.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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Norm_Knox
255 posts
Jan 03, 2009
6:43 PM
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rollingline33, why dont you leave Andrew alone worry about yourself and your "projects". How does it impact you if Andrew has a color project?? Is it goin to make your birds roll shitty???? So please leave him alone and let him learn what he wants to know. The future of this great hobby is on us younger guys, some like colors, and some like me dont care.
PS.
Andrew I got your back bro. Your a good guy. Give me an email at """nerminhebib@knology.net"""
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N/A Loft
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Norm_Knox
256 posts
Jan 03, 2009
6:44 PM
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Do your own thing ....
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N/A Loft
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STUDENT 2 THE GAME
51 posts
Jan 03, 2009
6:47 PM
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rollingline33
152 posts
Jan 03, 2009
1:27 PM nice yellows!!
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Longroller
GOLD MEMBER
120 posts
Jan 03, 2009
6:57 PM
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Rollingline33 aka Big Rob..kinda got the tuck head since early this afternoon. I checked your profile and since you came in to the hobby in 06..welcome to the hobby. Ya know, there is ample room for you AND Andrew here. One of the benefits of this site is you can ask questions about your roller pigeon hobby and hopefully get some answers. If not, we will dig and shake the bushes and get one for you. You want comp. guys to post..ask some questions. Get active with the positive questions that will make the "old farts" dig in their archives to find the answers. That makes for great learning for all of us. By the way..I have an old family of George Patterson Plona Yellow's that will give your eyeballs exercise from 12 to 6 until they(the eyes) get tired. And the birds have been around a loooooong time. (smile)
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De Oppresso Liber
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bigwilly
782 posts
Jan 03, 2009
7:07 PM
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BIG WILLY
TOPP FLIGHT/NCRC
Sunflower.lol
Big Willy
NCRC TOPP FLIGHT
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TheGame
372 posts
Jan 03, 2009
7:43 PM
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LLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Andrew im jealous that you get so much attention. Don't mind the haters brotha keep doing your thing.
If you see something that you don't like or doesn't interest you don't open/read it.
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TT
GOLD MEMBER
295 posts
Jan 03, 2009
7:46 PM
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So uncalled for, Ill actually say the kid makes laugh sometimes.
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rollingline33
155 posts
Jan 03, 2009
9:54 PM
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okay sorry my bad ;)!! sorry kopesta... I use too have a thing about big bird from sesame street too!! and sorry too all the guys that got mad!! i guess if you cant beat them join them!! i guess im going too have too get me some yellows or something!! im soo sure all the guys that responded exept for SCOTT and ME must have yellows too or pink and white bars!! lol
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cv rollers
217 posts
Jan 03, 2009
10:05 PM
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rollingline33 you have to say "sorry with a cherry on top" LOL just kidding but as they say if you can't say anything nice then don't say anything,JMO .we all don't have to like each other just respect everyones opinion new or old to the sport....
p.s. i do not have yellows!!!! YET !!!!!:)
rick
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gabe454
1442 posts
Jan 03, 2009
10:09 PM
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Rollingline33 man you havent been here that long and your starting some childish s%%t.Leave the kid alone he has done nothing to anyone here!but ask questions about birds if he has yellows so what!! there his what you need to do like my homeboy 155 says move on to the next thread but dont bash on kopesta hes a real good kid thats how you learn by asking..
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TRIPLE "G" LOFT
L.P.R.C
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rollingline33
157 posts
Jan 03, 2009
10:25 PM
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and sunflower i have nothing against indigo ;) did you just add it because its pretty or for performance ??? because it says it on your profile!! just asking!!
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Sunflower
148 posts
Jan 03, 2009
10:27 PM
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rollingline33, Good question. I added it because I liked it and the quality of the roll on the indigo bird I picked out of the air
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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rollingline33
158 posts
Jan 03, 2009
10:28 PM
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hey evill if you dont like it!! then why are you reading it?? lol your soo evill ;)!!!
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RodSD
136 posts
Jan 03, 2009
10:37 PM
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rollingline33,
You don't need to answer/read any thread that you don't like. Kopetsa seems to love yellow. I don't have problem with that. One of the reason why old timers are not posting anymore is probably because most questions are already answered in the past. Is there really new things in roller world?
rod
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rollingline33
159 posts
Jan 03, 2009
10:38 PM
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hey velo good job... ;) dont be mad... you got mad for nothing while kopesta is planing his next big project yellow x and a lighter shade of yellow!! so dont worry be happy!! kopesta good luck on your 2009 season!! lets all be grown men like mister evill said and lets end it here!! good luck too all that got mad and responded too this tread!! sorry 1 million times!!
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rollingline33
160 posts
Jan 03, 2009
10:42 PM
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ROD SD!! THAT WAS THE TYPE OF ANSWER I WOULD EXPECT FROM ANY ONE NOT BEEING KOPESTA!! THANX FOR THE TYPE OF ANSWER I GOT FROM YOU!!
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velocity1
43 posts
Jan 03, 2009
11:48 PM
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Hey rolling never said i was mad.The deal about being banned was a joke just ask 0042.Oh my bad he's not on this site no more so i guess you can't ask him.
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kopetsa
2700 posts
Jan 04, 2009
12:07 AM
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Whoa!! Thanks a lot Guys! rollingline33 I am glad you have learned to accept yellows into your heart! I read all these posts
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Andrew Carmichael
AB Canada
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kopetsa
2701 posts
Jan 04, 2009
12:28 AM
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"milk and cookies are good" lmao Velo
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Andrew Carmichael
AB Canada
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jnyce
456 posts
Jan 04, 2009
6:10 AM
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now that the war of words are of lets get back to rollers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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jerry t
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spinningdemon
147 posts
Jan 04, 2009
6:31 AM
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I was a beginer and had a lot to learn as well and the types of questions I see from Kopetsa are the same type I had. This is a site for learning and asking questions.
There is not a person on this site that was not a newbie at some time I have had roller pigeons for 30+ years and I am stil learning. Now that I live in a place where I can be in flying competitions I am starting the learning process all over again.
Luckly there are some in my local club that are always willing to help and there are the few that wont give you the time of day if you paid them. "The ones that have learned it all."
So the H--- what if this newbie wants to raise a yellow!I dont breed for color, I find blue or red checks dont roll as well as my whites.
Kopetsa ask away on your questions I will always be willing to help if I know the answear.
Why did he cull his whites? is a very valid question.
Was he a color breeder that only bred blues?
If it spins it has a home!
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David Curneal
www.freewebs.com/dcurneal
www.saltcreekcustomstone.com
In the air since 1973
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Windjammer Loft
638 posts
Jan 04, 2009
9:12 AM
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Now children.....lets stop all this arguing and fussing......LOL
You do have to admit, their is a time and place for very question. It is bothersome to see some of the "same" questions asked by different people. Its seems that alot of these newbie questions are too far in advance.. As a "beginner" their is a certain order of questions to be asked and learned. Like how to get started, feeding, housing and general training. It takes time to absorbe these things. All questions come in time..
I don't think a newbie can absorbe and retain all these different answers. There are certain steps to follow as far as learning what to do with your birds. It is a step by step process. Learn things that pertain to you at the level of your experience. Don't try to ask questions that should be ask at this time.. All will come. Just be patient
One more thing...I read the threads and if I feel I can add to the thread I will post and answer. If I feel the thread is out of place I just "Ignore" it.
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Fly High and Roll On
Paul
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