THISROLL
354 posts
Jan 03, 2009
6:31 PM
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What are some things you look in a bird when trying to stock them?
im going to try
Speed
Velocity
Good kitter
Frequency
Depth (deep)
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......... & ?
Is there anymore i need to know or any that you guys know?
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Sunflower
139 posts
Jan 03, 2009
6:42 PM
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THISROLL, I will give you my priorities, they are a little different from yours.
1. Style- H or A frame spinner
2. Velocity or speed
3. Smoothness or balance in the roll
4. Depth- 20-40' and carries the velocity thru the entire depth of the roll
5. Kitting ability
6. Frequency
7. And lastly to stay in the stock loft it must havae the ability to reproduce itself in all characteristics above. This last quality will normally take a while to confirm, so don't get impatient. Good luck
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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fresnobirdman
368 posts
Jan 03, 2009
6:51 PM
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mine is depth, speed, and kiting,
thats all i need,lol
~~Fresnobirdman~~
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STUDENT 2 THE GAME
53 posts
Jan 03, 2009
6:58 PM
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Kitting , Depth , Frequency, Speed, Working as team
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Longroller
GOLD MEMBER
121 posts
Jan 03, 2009
7:00 PM
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Sunflower Joe..good post..looks something like a comp/backyard guy to me. (smile)
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De Oppresso Liber
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Sunflower
140 posts
Jan 03, 2009
7:08 PM
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Longroller, wish I could say I have a loft full of those type stock birds but I don't. Have maybe 8-10 pair that meet criteria 1-6 and maybe 4 pair that meet all the criteria. The rest I use for feeders and try to pump the most out of the best.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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Hector Coya
378 posts
Jan 03, 2009
7:21 PM
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Stile
Deph
Frequency
Body tipe
Hector Coya-SGVS
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sac_spinners
248 posts
Jan 03, 2009
7:22 PM
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You guys aren't looking for quality in a bird? You can have speed, deep, and frequency but with out the quality the bird is a cull to me...JMO
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Northern California Roller Club
Chor
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belle
311 posts
Jan 03, 2009
7:28 PM
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1 Kitting because if they don,t kit they don't score, 2 is speed because I like to see a lot of it, 3 is frequency the more times they roll the more they score , and 4 is depth I love some depth but to much depth and they don't kit fast enough, for me to breed from a bird that rolls more then 30 feet they have to do the first 3 like theres no tomorrow.
If they don't have quality they don't have any thing.
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Justin
Last Edited by on Jan 03, 2009 7:30 PM
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Big Block
18 posts
Jan 03, 2009
7:42 PM
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I also would put quality ahead of the other aspect required of stocked rollers. I try to breed my best quality spinners with my deep family, fast family, and my frequent birds. In my opinion, depth, speed, frequency are all important, but quality makes those traits in my birds better and stand out more.
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sac_spinners
249 posts
Jan 03, 2009
8:27 PM
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My definition of quality is the quality of the roll. The roll has to be smooth, clean, straight, and in and out of the roll correctly, no wing switching or turning when they spin. Now if you are judging a kit of rollers then the quality multipliers would be base on the quality, style, velocity, and smoothness of the kit. Hope you see my definition of Quality. JMO
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NCRC (Northern California Roller Club)
Chor V
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Big Block
21 posts
Jan 03, 2009
8:37 PM
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I agree with your definition of quality completly sac spinner, give me akit of 15 footers with great quality over a kit of 30 footers that are switching wings are coming out of the spin the wrong way and can't get back to the kit.
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donnie james
128 posts
Jan 03, 2009
9:12 PM
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i have to agree with joe on this one.............donny james
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c robbo
378 posts
Jan 04, 2009
3:13 AM
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good stedy flying birds.then start in breeding.
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quality
85 posts
Jan 04, 2009
5:28 AM
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The most important trait is the wing pattern, if your stock birds have an "H" or an "A" wing pattern, an "A" perferred. Then yor birds are best equipped to handle the velocity & speed you are looking towards. Everything else is secondary, your kitting, where it flys in the kit, how it approaches the roll, how it comes out, how deep, how frequent, how long it takes to get back in.
These birds are champions, you know it, everyone who sees it knows it.
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Yours in the Hobby
Don Lunau
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Scott
1397 posts
Jan 04, 2009
9:27 AM
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Don, why is an A prefered over an H ?
My preference is a "true" H with speed and balance, and I find these extreamly hard to breed.
Much easier for me is birds where the wings blur due to being slightly off balance,but also they need to be in the proper condition to do such,when not in the proper condition they look like dog doo.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
Last Edited by on Jan 04, 2009 9:28 AM
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quality
90 posts
Jan 04, 2009
11:26 AM
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When they are in the "A" pattern , they are tucked in tighter, creating a smaller surface.
They are even harder to breed, but once you get the trait into your birds, it is a lot easier to keep it there.
If I have 2 brothers & 1's a "H" & 1's a "A", the "A"'s a shoe in.
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Yours in the Hobby
Don Lunau
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