Sunflower
155 posts
Jan 04, 2009
11:10 AM
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Scott, can you tell me if you see anything characterwise in this bird. I'm trying to understand. This is a serious question, not a pimp job.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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gotspin7
2182 posts
Jan 04, 2009
11:52 AM
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Joe, I am not Scott and I do not want to be...LOL.. But to my understanding character in my book is in the air, basically how the bird acts on the wing.
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Sal Ortiz
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gotspin7
2183 posts
Jan 04, 2009
11:52 AM
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Joe, you might be asking about the birds expression?
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Sal Ortiz
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c robbo
386 posts
Jan 04, 2009
11:59 AM
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dont them cages nak your birds fethers up.when you get them out dont them snap thair flights.just curius mate.
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Scott
1400 posts
Jan 04, 2009
12:47 PM
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Joe,by the picture just a good med. expression, niether too strong nor too weak,could be hot though if she is a little over loaded with roll.
I would breed such a bird no problem if she was all I want in the air and stable.
What I won't breed are birds with a weak expression even if they do show stability , keep in mind all of this is nothing more than an educated guess.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
Last Edited by on Jan 04, 2009 12:48 PM
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Sunflower
156 posts
Jan 04, 2009
12:49 PM
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Sal, This morning in another thread he referred to character following pigment. I'm just trying to understand what he means. My experience with yellows for example is the same as his. That is in the family that I work with. Not to say there are not some good ones out there. I'm just trying to wrap my arms around this character, expression, pigmentation string.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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Sunflower
157 posts
Jan 04, 2009
12:51 PM
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Thanks Scott, This particular bird in an 08. Was rolling well when I locked it down. Got another year before I will know if it will make it to stock.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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Sunflower
158 posts
Jan 04, 2009
12:52 PM
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Can you describe what weak expression is or is just an intuitive read?
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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Scott
1401 posts
Jan 04, 2009
12:53 PM
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I might add that going by the picture that I like her.
Scott
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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Sunflower
159 posts
Jan 04, 2009
12:55 PM
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I do too, and it is a young cock. Hope he pans out
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
2271 posts
Jan 04, 2009
4:54 PM
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Joe is that what you call a Andalusian or just a blue chk..just curious trying to learn the color on these beautiful creatures..
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Ralph
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winwardrollers
78 posts
Jan 04, 2009
5:24 PM
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Joe
That is what I like... cock birds that look like hens.
Pictures are pretty deceiving three pictures of the same bird would be better. I can see a little of color on that bird ...Joe
Bwinward
Last Edited by on Jan 04, 2009 5:25 PM
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Sunflower
160 posts
Jan 04, 2009
5:29 PM
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Yes Brad, it is an indigo bar. Its half brother is the Andalusian below.
Not sure you would call these color pigeons, they are simply blues modified by the indigo factor. Not very exotic. By the way this is naturally occuring color in Birmingham Rollers.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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Ty Coleman
496 posts
Jan 04, 2009
6:04 PM
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Joe, nice bird ! My birds are all set on the check pattern no bars, it's always funny how people like to refer to them as kites and call it bronze. I actualy had a judge holding a indigo check, that told me that was what I needed build my family on and told me his full brother was junk because he was a Andy. I was told by my mentor to pay close attention to type ![ If it spins like it should it's the correct type] Do you raise many double factor ?
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Ty
Vapor Trail Lofts
Last Edited by on Jan 04, 2009 6:06 PM
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Scott
1402 posts
Jan 04, 2009
6:04 PM
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Because another breed was used to bring it in Joe,that is what a "color" bird is, as far as color birds go these are the best as the color is dominate and you don't have to keep breeding toward the mutt side to keep it,honestly though,that bird just looks like a smokey BB
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Just my Opinion
Scott
Last Edited by on Jan 04, 2009 6:06 PM
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Sunflower
162 posts
Jan 04, 2009
6:10 PM
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You are right, they are very close in appearance. We will have to agree to disagree on the origin of the factor. That has been pounded pretty hard on this site
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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Ty Coleman
497 posts
Jan 04, 2009
6:11 PM
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Scott, many genes are ressecive or even sex linked. There is no need to go back as you put it. I don't know which gene you are refering to or where it comes from to have to make crosses.
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Ty
Vapor Trail Lofts
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Sunflower
163 posts
Jan 04, 2009
6:12 PM
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Ty, no judge will ever handle one of my birds unless I get out of rollers and start raising fantails or some other fancy bird.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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Ty Coleman
498 posts
Jan 04, 2009
6:14 PM
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Mine either again Joe ! I am going to move my open loft away from my kitboxes also so they can't be seen.
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Ty
Vapor Trail Lofts
Last Edited by on Jan 04, 2009 7:57 PM
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Sunflower
164 posts
Jan 04, 2009
6:19 PM
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I hope you didn't misunderstand, I meant show judge. A reputable flying judge is free to handle my birds and offer his opinion any time. Show judges don't know squat about BR.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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Ty Coleman
499 posts
Jan 04, 2009
6:22 PM
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The show aspect hasn't apealed to me. Keep it in the air lol
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Ty
Vapor Trail Lofts
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Lipper
GOLD MEMBER
130 posts
Jan 04, 2009
8:21 PM
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Mike Trevis
The Bigger the Dream the Bigger the Leap
Joe,
I am pretty sure that last picture is of an andalusion..
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Sunflower
165 posts
Jan 04, 2009
8:55 PM
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It is Mike, it is a half brother to the Indigo bar that I posted at the beginning of this thread
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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