quickspin
971 posts
Jan 12, 2009
2:33 PM
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To each it's own. But honestly when you try to breed for a certain criteria that is not for performance is a waste of time.
It's really hard to breed excellent Rollers that there is not many out there. A good roller has to love to roll and have the mental strength to handle the roll, It has to be in top shape when flying. It has to enter the roll correctly and exit the roll facing the kit. It can't roll side ways or wing change during any period of the roll. It has to be super tight fast roll were you don't see the bird trying to unfold it self. Real clean smooth roll in and out. The less wing you see the better the quality. Not many birds out there show no wing so the tighter they touch on top and on the bottom the better. For this you really have to narrow your eyes and see each bird by it self. Not looking all over the kit. You can see a bad roller right away when you see a good one and know how is built.
Now breeding for a certain color or patter will make this even difficult to achieve other than just strictly breeding for performance. I'm not saying it can't be done I know of some that have nice rollers with those patters. But they also have been doing it for a very very long time. They also know what is a good roller in the first place to be able to consider doing it. That I know there is around 3 guys that I can know. Even if you get birds from them you have to know how to breed them or else you will mess up the line.
Guys that are starting out it will be better if you go out and see kits fly before you buy birds. And know what colors are in Birmingham Rollers so no one can tell you this is a Roller and is a cross.
There is a lot of difference between a Tumbler and a excellent Roller.
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SALAS LOFT
I.C.R.C
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TT
GOLD MEMBER
309 posts
Jan 12, 2009
2:35 PM
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Well put quickspin.
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Sunflower
GOLD MEMBER
181 posts
Jan 12, 2009
2:51 PM
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Well said Qickspin. If I had one piece of advice for new flyers it would be to pick your stock from the air from reputable breeders but always see what you are getting perform before you buy. Thereafter build your family from the best in the air! Once you get to know your family extremely well and that might take 10 years, if you want to add a different color or pattern pick the import out of the air also. No fly no buy!! Always be careful when introducing something newto a family and do not be afraid to cull ruthlessly.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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Norm_Knox
265 posts
Jan 12, 2009
3:00 PM
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Nicely put Quick. Perfrmance should always be NO. 1 when picking birds to a stock loft.
Joe you are completly rite... By the way how are ya?? And call me when you get a chance !!!
Norm
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N/A Loft
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Scott
1420 posts
Jan 12, 2009
3:02 PM
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Good post Sal !
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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quickspin
972 posts
Jan 12, 2009
3:03 PM
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They have to see birds in the sky and know what they are looking at. If they don't know what they see it's hard to tell them apart.
Many confuse depth with quality I was ONE.
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SALAS LOFT
I.C.R.C
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Sunflower
GOLD MEMBER
183 posts
Jan 12, 2009
3:07 PM
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So true Sal, quality and depth are 2 different things. If you get both you have something but I'll take 15-20' tight H over 40'wide H anyday.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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ROBERT RODRIGUEZ
38 posts
Jan 12, 2009
3:14 PM
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NICE POST ROLAND HOPE SOMEONE MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING OUT FROM THIS VELOCITY,FREQUENCY,DEPTH,
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toronto15
10 posts
Jan 12, 2009
3:16 PM
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Great solid advice and information,Glen
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spinningdemon
181 posts
Jan 12, 2009
5:58 PM
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Good post thank you for sharing
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David Curneal
www.freewebs.com/dcurneal
www.saltcreekcustomstone.com
In the air since 1973
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donnie james
170 posts
Jan 12, 2009
10:07 PM
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quick very well said i couldn't say it better.............donny james
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gotspin7
2193 posts
Jan 13, 2009
4:47 AM
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Rolando, This is the best post I have seen in a long time! Thank you.. Good luck in 09!
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Sal Ortiz
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