530flyer
10 posts
Jan 16, 2009
1:12 PM
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hi im new here and also new @ the hobby..sorry for this studip question..but i was wondering where in sac can i get some pigeon feed..aslo what do you guys feed your kit birds with?..
thnks 530flyer
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kham89
165 posts
Jan 16, 2009
2:38 PM
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welcome to the hobby...well im from sac...and i buy my feeds from bradshaw feed store...take florin rd east and it will intersect bradshaw and take bradshaw south and less than a mile you'll find the feedstore... i use mostly pigeon mix feed or wheat and milo...and pellets for breeders...hope that can help
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kham thao
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530flyer
12 posts
Jan 16, 2009
4:42 PM
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thnks kham..really appreciate the help.does it makes a difference in your birds performance based on what your feeding them..for example if i use cracked corn instead of the mixed bird feed would the performance differ??..and is it good to feed our breeder meat maker cuz that what my dad feed his kings and they produce like crazy..im jsut curious about this..
thnks 530flyer
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sundance
1022 posts
Jan 16, 2009
5:22 PM
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I wouldnt recommend cracked corn, if you can afford, or have available to you , a good mix would be better.
The breeder,meat maker would be ok for breeders.
Some fly their kitbirds on a standard pigeon grain mix and do very well. Others use a combination of wheat,milo, and peas.
Others use the wheat as a primary feed and suppliment some peas about once a week.
If they are flying too high, or too long, some use straight milo to bring them down.
Most families of birds vary how they react to different feeds.
I`d start with a pigeon grain mix and go from there.
fly them for a month or so. then try straight wheat for a few weeks, and so forth.
You will need to just see which method works for you and your birds.
Good luck with this... Its a lot of time and effort but well worth it to find out what works for you, and your birds.
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530flyer
14 posts
Jan 16, 2009
5:44 PM
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alrite thnks for the info sundance..what do u feed your breeders??..
530flyer
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Bill C
166 posts
Jan 16, 2009
8:16 PM
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Hey 530flyer, welcome, The ncrc is having a roller show in Lodi on 28th of Feb. In Mickey Grove park. Come if you can and you can meet all the guys with rollers in the area. Families can come also. There is a playground right next to where they have the roller event and a small zoo in the park.
I invite you to come. You can ask local guys in Sacramento area questions and get to know us.
People always have to be careful for the pigeon thieves and it can be hard to get to know people in roller clubs but this is one way to get together and not worry someone who had just visited you will come back and steal your birds.
Also its good to fill out the profile. click your name and fill out some info on you if you want to. It really helps to know who you are. Hope you can come to our roller show. Its all about performance there but you always have a few color birds show up too, they bring the lowest prices in the auction for birds. Bill C
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kham89
167 posts
Jan 16, 2009
8:31 PM
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530flyer the ncrc guys are great guys. get a chance to know them. Went to one of their fly once, I'm shock at what their birds are able to do.
Bill if I am not mistaken that is the same park from last yr show rite? Can you post up map or directions.
Thank you
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kham thao
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Bill C
167 posts
Jan 16, 2009
8:35 PM
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Hi Kham, yes I will look for my flyer from last year. Yes it is in the same park. Covered benches so if we get a little rain we are covered! It will take a day to get that map so keep watch and I will get one on here. Bill C
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530flyer
15 posts
Jan 17, 2009
12:07 AM
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thnks bill for the invitation and im looking forward to meeting all of you guys..also i hope to can pick up some advice from you pro roller guys out there in nrcr on raising birds...hope to see all you guys out there
530flyer
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Bill C
168 posts
Jan 17, 2009
4:14 PM
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Kham89,530flyer and anyone else, Here is directions to the Birmingham roller exhibition. Saturday 28th Feb Starts at 10 am.
Directions: Off Highway 99, Take the Armstrong Rd. Exit- go west. Follow the signs to Micke Grove Park. Once inside the park, follow sings to San Joaquin Picnic area. ( All the way to the back of the park on the west side) 11793 N. Micke Grove Road., Lodi., CA I am sure Ken Firl will be putting a flyer out on it with some contact phone numbers. You can google a map with the address 11793 N. Micke Grove Rd. Lodi CA Bill C
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530flyer
21 posts
Jan 18, 2009
3:57 AM
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alrite thnks bill..hopping to see all you guys there..how would we all know who is who over thea???
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530flyer
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916fastspinner
73 posts
Jan 18, 2009
9:18 AM
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hello 530flyer....oh about any feedstore in sac....there is also one on Rio Linda at the corner of Marconi and 16st..it's call River Valley feedstore...if your just feeding pigeon mix and you don't like no corn then this is the place....cause at the bradshaw feed they only sell the one with corn...see like my birds they don't like corn so i have to drive down to Rio Linda from south sac everytime to get my feed...hope this will help you...but yeah don't forget to come to our show on Feb. 28 at Micke Grove Park....hope to see you there
san
ncrc
Last Edited by on Jan 18, 2009 9:19 AM
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530flyer
22 posts
Jan 18, 2009
9:49 AM
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thnks 916fastspinner...hope to see you all there too..
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530flyer
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Bill C
172 posts
Jan 18, 2009
4:26 PM
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%30flyer, we will have a sticker for your shirt that will have your name on it and I will have one that has my name on it. You can also put your 530 flyer on it if you want to. Many guys from this site will be there. Bill C
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kham89
169 posts
Jan 18, 2009
7:30 PM
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Thanks for the directions Bill
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kham thao
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530flyer
29 posts
Jan 19, 2009
11:09 AM
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watsup keep rollin?..i think u can its for all roller peoples...
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530flyer
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Bill C
173 posts
Jan 19, 2009
5:58 PM
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Keep-rolling, Yes you can come. It is open to anybody. Some times this is a place to purchase a few birds that are hard to come by. It is five dollars to get into the park and usaully a lunch is provided for everyone. They may want to charge two or three dollars for lunch because not everyone wants birds and everyone is offered lunch. I will have to get back on that part. But its $5 per car to enter so you can car pool with your friends and load the car up. Just bring a box or cage if you might want to buy a few birds. Bill C
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530flyer
40 posts
Jan 20, 2009
9:53 PM
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thnks bill c..are you going to participate in any of the show or going to have birds in the auction bill c..just wondering..
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530flyer
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LTFY08
7 posts
Jan 20, 2009
10:21 PM
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thanks guys..i just moved here. Don't know any feeder store around here..but thanks. I was recently getting my feeds from marysville. well that leaves out the hasel run up there.
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Bill C
175 posts
Jan 20, 2009
10:57 PM
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530, I have never taken a bird to a show pen. While this is for the performing rollers and most will bring kit birds they are flying or breeder birds that are proven birds. This is a fund raiser for the club.
The auction birds should all be birds that are perfornce based. I dont have any pairs together yet. I wait until the wild birds hatch out young to lessen the loss of young kit birds gettin eaten. Or I would birng a few squeakers to help out the club.
I might come up with a pair of kit birds if I can get them flying again before the auction. But I do not take show birds for the fact that it is a good way to bring home a disease and I ask is it worth it to show a bird just to have many others at your loft die? not for me for a trophy. I could go buy all the trophies I wanted if that was what I was into.
Also take my advice and if you get some new birds from anywhere, you should isolate them from the rest as far away as possible in your yard until three weeks or four weeks. Many times guys have bought new birds and bring them home to have several get a disease and die.
Its not that people enter sick birds. Everyones loft has disease and the birds themselves have bad bacteria in their guts. But if they get stressed it can take them over. One loft may have a mild case of cocci,canker or E-coli but no sick birds since they build an immunity to it like we do when we get the flu then we are imune to the flu. Well pigeons build resistance to some of these things and when you bring in a new bird it can have something your birds are not used to (vise versa)plus they drink in the same water pan and they all get exposed to it. Now you have sick birds.
Make a cage now so you will have something to put them into until they acclimate to your area and you are confident they are not sick and begin to adjust to your food and water and germs in your yard. We all have them germs, but we do not all have sick birds. Bill C
Last Edited by on Jan 20, 2009 11:03 PM
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Bill C
176 posts
Jan 20, 2009
11:17 PM
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Something else I see sometimes. Young guys dont have enough kit boxes or lofts. If you are young and want another cage. Have your Dad or Mother or Uncle drive you to a construction site. Take a picture of your pigoens and talk to the workers and tell them you are building a pigeon loft and if they have any scrap wood left over if you could come back and get some. Be polite and give them your phone number to call you if they have some old wood.
I would say, " Sir, my name is ---- I am building a pigoen loft and if you have any scrap wood you are going to thow away in the dumpster I would be most greatfull if you could help me out. Here is my phone number sir! will you give it to the man in charge for me. Thank you Sir!"
I work with contractors all the time and most of them are very nice guys but dont have time to talk a lot and want to get back to their work. If one construction site doesnt work out, well keep looking and go to another one. Look in the new papers for free wood also. I would always help out a young man who was polite when I am at work. I've taken a few wood scraps meself by asking the general contrator on the site if I could have some srap two by fours and such. Bill C
Last Edited by on Jan 21, 2009 12:16 PM
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530flyer
42 posts
Jan 20, 2009
11:49 PM
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alrite thnks for the info..really appreciate the help bill..i know what you mean b/c there are alot of disease all birds carry..thnks again bill..see you at the show..
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530flyer
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
2361 posts
Jan 21, 2009
8:08 AM
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great post their Bill down to the tee.
530flyer Ecoli is a normal inhabitant of the digested system in pigeons it has decease potential but usually takes a predisposing condition to allow the opportunity to cause the infection.like stress .viral infection ,intestinal parasites and irritants of the bowel while consuming chemicals while out fielding.
one of the predisposing factors in young birds is adenovirus . adenovirus by itself will not cause the decease but in the presence of Ecoli it will allow Ecoli to cause the decease..now listen to this what Bill is telling you.>like mixing or race training or accumulating birds from various sources. signs that can tell are usually birds vomiting,diarrhea,abnormal droppings and lethargy... with that alone I"ll be very careful..
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Ralph
Last Edited by on Jan 21, 2009 3:46 PM
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530flyer
44 posts
Jan 21, 2009
3:39 PM
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thnks PR rollers on the feedback..
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530flyer
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