LTFY08
21 posts
Jan 24, 2009
2:23 PM
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what's the best thing to do when BOP are around?..can't fly my birds because of them. But when do i know when i should fly my birds again? my birds where attack today. luckly none of my birds were taken. It came so close from getting one of my birds. what should i do? i'll probably lock them down for a while and see what happens.
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Bill C
190 posts
Jan 24, 2009
2:36 PM
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Did I bring you bad luck. I mentioned how can you fly right now on another post?
I wait until mid Feb to pair up so the squeakers will be ready to fly it in mid March. That is when the wild birds are raising young too and food it plentyful. You will have a problem until then most likely.
Most guys have pairs together now, but we will still have some cold weather and the birds are not as good with cold foggy days. Plus they will get strong on the wing if you do not fly them at the right time. So I would wait until then to fly young.
As for your flying kit now. You may have to wait until mid or late Feb or even March to fly again with out BOP.
It is best not to fly for a week if they get hit. It will cause the birds to fly in fast circles if they are chased day in day out.
Change the time you fly if they are still comming around in March.
Starve them out is best, that is make them find food else where. Bill
Last Edited by on Jan 24, 2009 2:43 PM
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530flyer
54 posts
Jan 25, 2009
10:47 AM
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ey bill c..doesnt it mess up your kit after it gets hit by BOP once or twice??..i use to have a decent kit with decent perfomances until BOP showed up and chased them a few times..it messed up the whole kit..they would fly and perform but not as hard and frequent as before BOP showed up..flies faster than nornal paste...if thats the case how do i get them to get back on track???
or is it just how im feeding them?..
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530flyer
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530flyer
55 posts
Jan 25, 2009
6:02 PM
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hey bill i may have ask you this before but what bloodlines do you fly??..
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530flyer
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Hifly11
44 posts
Jan 25, 2009
6:09 PM
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Hay Bill C, that some good info you wrote in your post. You seem to have alot knowlege about flying rollers. I live in michigan, do you think I can fly now?? I haven't seen a Hawk in more than a month.
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Bill C
191 posts
Jan 25, 2009
8:13 PM
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Hifly11, LOL I do not know? It all depends on your migrations or if they stay around for a while. I think you were joking but the same would apply actually. Wait until your local birds mate up and build a nest, that is the best time to pair your birds together. I think in Michigan your spring will come later than here in Northern Calif valley.
530flyer, It does mess up the kit for a while. Especially young birds but older birds will get over it quicker but if they get chased everytime you let them out, they will be scared even though they fly. Imagine a big Grizzley bear after you everytime you go outside your home. You never would feel comfortable going out. Really the best to do is wait a two or three weeks and it should start getting better. They will come back into the routine after a week or two of flying them.
As for my birds I have several. More than I should have but I love the birds and have the space for them. I have a few Jaconettes, that is what I started out with. They are frequent but not the best in quality, I do get some good birds out of them but not in a good percentage though. They are also the most unstable birds I've had as far as roll downs or birds bumping in and out of the box. I only have a few I had picked out of the air myself left because I gave the rest away.
I also have a pair from Dave Henderson and Joe Urban. I really like the Urban birds and Daves birds are great too.
I have several squeakers I got from Joe Borges and those I am picking the best each year from the air so I will have proven birds eventually. They have good quality and velocity. Joe Borges birds goes back to Herb Sparks, Mucully and Slate birds. Anyway I did not get proven birds just kit birds and am working on getting a few solid pairs to work with out of them.
Don't worry ever about getting squeaker from a guy. He might be selling you his best bird hatched that year and if he sees it fly, he will not sell it or give it away in most cases. So I encourage people to get squeakers and fly them out or breed from them and pick out your new breeders from the air. Anyway that is the back ground of most of my birds. Bill C
Last Edited by on Jan 25, 2009 8:15 PM
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530flyer
56 posts
Jan 25, 2009
9:33 PM
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thnks bill on your bird background..sounds like you have a handful huh...ey bill can i get your email?>..so if somethin comes up and need your help ill email you..
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530flyer
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Hifly11
45 posts
Jan 26, 2009
7:19 AM
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Thanks Bill, I have had pigeons on and off all my life, I retired and decided to get back into rollers. When I was 13, back in the fifties we did not have BOP problems. That is why Iam open to any info along those lines.I would like to Email you and ask you more questions. My Add. is nglide@comcast.net thanks Budd
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LTFY08
22 posts
Jan 26, 2009
9:26 AM
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thanks for the tips Bill. For now i have them lock down. i'll just wait until late feb to fly them again.
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Bill C
192 posts
Jan 27, 2009
7:53 PM
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I am a little late at getting back to you guys. Some days are more busy for me than others. I am self-employed and never know sometimes how my day will end up. My Email is Cridercrader@aol.com Good luck to you! Bill
Last Edited by on Jan 27, 2009 10:11 PM
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sundance
1030 posts
Jan 27, 2009
8:42 PM
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This thought just came to me today on this subject.
I had a bon fire going today and let out my kit.
Didnt see any bops. had one here yesterday.. It got me thinking. I dont think I ever had one come in while I had a fire going outside. Maybe the smoke in the air keeps them away. I have thought about this concerning my birds and It doesn`t seem to affect them.
I`m going to do some watching for this now.
I know it wont help those who live in an area that prohibits bon fires but for some of us it might help. Fire is a natural deterant to wildlife...
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Butch @
Sundance Roller Lofts
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530flyer
62 posts
Jan 27, 2009
8:58 PM
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thnks bill...
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530flyer
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KiddenAround
283 posts
Jan 29, 2009
2:02 PM
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I like that idea, Butch!
Oh, and I love fires.
After the coals get hot, rake a few out, shovel some in your smokey and throw a rib eye on. But first, take some 'taters and cut 'em up, lay 'em out on tin foil, drizzle with olive oil, sprinkle Lipton onion soup over them, seal up and bury in the coals. they'll be done in about 20 minutes and taste great with the rib eye.
One eye on the steak, one on the sky.
What a great day! :)
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-- Laura
Professional Thrill Seeker
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tomas'commerce,ca.
96 posts
Jan 29, 2009
4:20 PM
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hey laura i like that,one eye in the sky one one the steak lol.im going to try that i like bon fires too and that bake potato recipe sounds good yummm.
ToMaS
5/710
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Windjammer Loft
688 posts
Jan 30, 2009
8:44 AM
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LTFY08...it seems like you answered your own question....
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Fly High and Roll On
Paul
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topnotch uk
176 posts
Jan 30, 2009
9:21 AM
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were i live in england the bops nest-site is around 2miles you can see the cliff-face the bop waits 4 me to fly my birds then the bop all-ways wins 1 day bop lol
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silent187
336 posts
Jan 30, 2009
1:38 PM
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good ideas..
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donnie james
208 posts
Jan 30, 2009
6:19 PM
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do like i do just cuse them a little and give them the middle finger....................donny james
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