rollem
28 posts
Jan 26, 2009
5:07 PM
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I have about 3 birds one of which is a good roller the other 2 are still learning how they are Young i have been flying when i can watch in the eve. and weekends all the other birds i fly with them trap very Quickly after a short fly to get to the food but these 3 seem to want to walk around on the ground picking at everything on ground ,they have grit and food avaiable but just want to hang out on the ground , iam worried this will carry over to kit!!!! ----------
One of the few Virginia ROLLER BOYS
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
2388 posts
Jan 26, 2009
5:21 PM
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Scare them off the ground fast so they don't developed bad habits get them to go to the top of kitbox and wait till the feed is almost gone and coach them in..this way they get little feed as possible and you watch tomorrow they will be the first one in..do not cull them the management is on your part .. they have to learn your the kitmaster and obey your command only.. they probably eating fast and more than the rest..or just dumb looking for feed on ground knowing there is feed inside..work them work them till you win them over..good luck..
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Ralph
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fresnobirdman
465 posts
Jan 26, 2009
6:03 PM
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i had alott of those,
every time you fly them you have to watch who comes to the ground, scare them as fast as you can so that they dont come to the ground,
it takes some time before they stop doing it;
it gets me very irritated when all they do is come to the ground for feed,
or you can just get a chihuahua to get them every time they get on the ground.
-fou
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black_hawk_down
176 posts
Jan 26, 2009
6:27 PM
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try flying the other two young ones in a seperate kit of younger birds if you can. if not add a bird one by one into the kit see if they keep on having bad habits or progress.-joe v.
Last Edited by on Jan 26, 2009 6:28 PM
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silent187
309 posts
Jan 26, 2009
8:10 PM
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u should throw them in the air everytime u relase them so that they dont have time to land aand if they land scare them till the go up again...
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c robbo
423 posts
Jan 27, 2009
1:57 AM
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its a cull. you control the birds not bird control you.if you dont get it sorted out your other birds will start doing the same thing so nip it in the bud.
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J_Star
1858 posts
Jan 27, 2009
5:10 AM
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Once they mature they will stop going to the ground. You can control their feed better when they are mature. Don't give up on them too soon.
Jay
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mario
GOLD MEMBER
328 posts
Jan 27, 2009
6:08 AM
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I never let my birds go on the ground ...........Mario
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maxspin
343 posts
Jan 27, 2009
6:47 AM
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Rollem,
Feed your birds as soon as they trap. The three stragglers will not get to eat. Put them out again the next day, feed them as soon as they trap. After a couple of days of no food they will be trapping as quick as the rest.
Keith
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J_Star
1861 posts
Jan 27, 2009
8:05 AM
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Mario, can I ask you why!!
Jay
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Pararoller
1 post
Jan 27, 2009
10:13 AM
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hey rollem i have turners and i got one hella of bird that has the ability to get out of my trap and didn't think of it but 2 months went by i see him out and another week went by well i see 2 more that did the same thing using its head to lift the bob so in my case i cull them but ur u should starve those three for a day and fly them with 3-4 birds if it continue cull it or else others will fallow..
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Scott
1586 posts
Jan 27, 2009
10:36 AM
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Pararoller, so let me understand this, you culled them because they were smart enough to squeeze through some alum. bobs ? and who's fault is that ?
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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Scott
1587 posts
Jan 27, 2009
10:39 AM
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Rollem, sounds like you have food on the ground, if so clean it up, if not they just aren't hungry enough,either way it sounds like purely management or lack of.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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Sunflower
GOLD MEMBER
244 posts
Jan 27, 2009
10:52 AM
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Wow,that post is as nonsensical as the picture of all the dead pigeons. I think I might built a door over the trap or have figured out how to prevent them from getting out before I culled them!! I can't begin to tell you the rage that I feel right now. If I said what I want to say, Tony would boot me for sure.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
Last Edited by on Jan 27, 2009 11:01 AM
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Lipper
GOLD MEMBER
182 posts
Jan 27, 2009
10:58 AM
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Mike Trevis
The Bigger the Dream the Bigger the Leap
Pararoller I agree with Scott...Get a couple eyehooks and a rod so they cant get out..No need to cull smart birds unless they lack performance.
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Pararoller
2 posts
Jan 27, 2009
11:12 AM
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oh i agree its my fault but i have this problem when i first started didn't mean to refer this today i forgot to say when i first started raising rollers in 06 have no idea and i learn from the hard way thats all
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Pararoller
3 posts
Jan 27, 2009
11:17 AM
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i well say every new fancier will make the mistake of culling birds or not culling as well as feeding them when no one can help the newbie i never knew there was site that i could ask. and yes i'm still learning how to use a computer late bloomber..
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J_Star
1863 posts
Jan 27, 2009
11:30 AM
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When the birds go to the ground, they are in search of grit/stones. Their body is telling them they need it. Give them plenty of grit and they will stop going to the ground as they mature.
The reason I don't want the birds to go to the ground due to the fear of BOPs and not to teach them to loiter around the loft and create nascence. Other than that pigeons are pigeons.
Jay
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JBow
45 posts
Jan 27, 2009
11:39 AM
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Pararoller Yea them bobs birds will get through them. And if you don't have a door on them things can get in. When i was kid i had a tom cat get in and there were dead and wounded birds everywhere. I grabbed that old cat and it was round 1. I bet i had that cat by the neck for 5 minutes.He went limp and i through him to the ground, as soon as he hit the ground he was up and over the fence. Me i looked like i had run back and fourth through a Barbed wire fence. I learned two things that day, always have a door on your traps and never try and strangle a cat. I use drop traps now birds cannot get out and the a cats can't get in, and all the traps have doors. Jim Bowen
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Sunflower
GOLD MEMBER
247 posts
Jan 27, 2009
11:50 AM
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Jim,
I had a similar experience with a cat when I was young. Now I just use a .22.
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Keep em Spinning
Joe
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Pararoller
4 posts
Jan 27, 2009
11:59 AM
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hey thanks i know i might offend every one but as u can see i learned these thing on my own didn't know any one who raise rollers that time but now i'm learning more by reading what u guys wrote so i apologize what i 've said on culling them when i didn't state when i started new
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
2394 posts
Jan 27, 2009
8:43 PM
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lol JBow >Me i looked like i had run back and fourth through a Barbed wire fence. I learned two things that day, always have a door on your traps and never try and strangle a cat.
No problem Pararoller you live and learn, Welcome to Tony's site where you from ?
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Ralph
Last Edited by on Jan 28, 2009 4:51 PM
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Pararoller
5 posts
Jan 28, 2009
10:37 AM
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hey thank PR rollers not to b mean but rookies make mistakes and he has no mentor 4 guide but most guys r so up tight and takes things too far or say not so nice thing well all i ask if they were that good then take that rookies and mentor it so more would join ur club and new hobbiest shouldn't fell like being thrown to the lion dens act like ur age people say thing cause they don't think and most will make mistakes but there's a few who are total rude and mean thats why the world would b in a better place if this wasn't around. i probably will not joining this club if that how most people R..
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